seisan

[equaninimus]

NO. At this stage, you should probably concentrate on performing the techniques properly. As I stated above, the kata and your instructors have to guide you. An anonymous voice from across the nation cannot do this.

[mArTiAl_GiRl]

you know what? Here in Estonia in our Dojo, we just take our karate notebooks and watch a kata video in slow motion and put it on pause to look at the movements more carefully, and write down the whole walkthrough of the kata. And now when I practice the kata, I just take a look in my notebook if I forget or have to look through something again. That's how I learn all my gradings and katas.

[fireka]

ha! Martial Girl, who is not only an extremely talented martial artist but is also insanely beautiful has just made a statement that advocates the use of the 'fobidden video tape' in leanring kata. Just thought i'd point that out.

 

anyways yea I know you can't, but heck what else good is a forum on martial arts if every subject can't be adressed, I know technically you can't tell me completely how to apply this kata, but imagine I have my gloves on right now, im challangeing you, try anyway.

[AndrewGreen]

Sauzin, ill try that.

 

To me, it seems mainly reptitive, as though it wasn't meant so much to be realistic as just drill into you the mentaility behind some of the less practiced techniques. When is the last time you used an x-block? Also thats the reason I think you have to grab the arm and pull three times. I mean, in a fight, why the heck would they all be standing in a line like that? It also works with simple techniques that dont use lots of excess movement, which is a core value of Isshinryu anyway. One thing I wanted to clear up in paticular, that little push up thing I do with my arms right before I half step forward and x-block, whats that for?

 

X-Block in Seisan? Do you mean the wedge block at the end of the opening sequence? This is the Isshin ryu version of seisan right?

 

Oh, and you don't grab the arm and pull 3 times, that would be a silly thing to do. That sequence has many other possible applications.

[mArTiAl_GiRl]

ha! Martial Girl, who is not only an extremely talented martial artist but is also insanely beautiful has just made a statement that advocates the use of the 'fobidden video tape' in leanring kata. Just thought i'd point that out.

 

anyways yea I know you can't, but heck what else good is a forum on martial arts if every subject can't be adressed, I know technically you can't tell me completely how to apply this kata, but imagine I have my gloves on right now, im challangeing you, try anyway.

 

a statement that advocates the use of the 'forbidden video tape'? umm..gosh what a sentence, I don't think even my english teacher could understand that lol......writers..

[fireka]

There are two bloking movements done after punching three times. There preformed with both hands. Iv'e never heard it reffered to as a 'wedge block'. But one does cross the wrist, making an 'x' shape.

[AndrewGreen]

You mean the downward open hand action done on the turn?

[fireka]

no no no, just before that.

 

Okay you start with a middle block and a punch right? then step forward punch, step forward punch. Then theres two things you do before turning. they make your hands go up not down.

[AndrewGreen]

Andrew Scratches head....

 

You shuffle up, do the double high block (wedge block) turn, cross hands and double open hand downward action...

 

I have never seen anyone add a x-block into that....

[fireka]

okay see maybe we are calling the same technique two different things, or maybe we were jsut taught different. at the IWKA I saw 6 people perform seisan six different ways, one of them I saw doing ki breathing as they pulled the arm back that three times thingy, thought that was pretty cool.

 

Thos "wedge blocks" on the shuffle forward, both movements when you do it look exactly the same?