KickChick Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 I suspect that Gorgoth is not studying "korean" martial arts just by the term "dragon" kicks, in which case he should take a look at the subjuect line of thread as it is in regards to tae kwon do. Where's the "fantasy" you are referring to taezee (I don't se it) maybe the ramblings of a young karate student so enthused and so mesmerized by his art that his exhuberance is superceeded by his knowledge or lack thereof. Go easy .... I too am wrong on many things here and would welocome those with much more experience than I to tell me "like it is". That is why we are all here.
SBN Doug Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 O.k., I'll throw my two cents in. The only part of that story I find practical (let alone believable) is the cross step side kick to the heavy bag knocking you back. That's some pretty good power, but not unheard of. As far as all those nutty mid-air combinations, even if you mastered them all, and could deliver them perfectly, you better land the first one. Because every combination I saw you list could be easily side stepped and countered. So, if you're going to rely on them, you better not miss even one. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
TKD_McGee Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 If you ever watch people spar, they hardly ever jump up. People do however jump to do spinning kicks. Jumping is also a good skill to have in order to get out of the way fast, or jump into the action. Fast feet is what TKD is all about, that and a good brain! Do unto others, as they done to you.
Gorgoth Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 hey.. i apologize for my incredibly stupid post... hehe... as for me using sensei and dragon kick, we didnt call my TKD master dude anything special, i just know we call our master sensei or sempai in the martial art i am in right now... (Goju-Ryu) As for the "dragon kick" thats just a flying side kick i dont remember or i was never told the other name for it... i just figured more people would know what a dragon kick was because of bruce lee... That large kick combo was exaggerated a WHOLE BUNCH.... if you didnt already catch that... hehe... the combo is basically... hell... i dunno what the hell its called... or how to describe it... its just that kick keanu reaves (neo) does in the movie The Matrix while he is fighting the agent in the subway... you run at the guy, jump in the air and throw a few kicks at their face... if you know what i'm talking about... kewl... if not... oh well... i dont know any other way to describe it... KickChick-- Yes... i was talking about TKD... I was in it for 5 or 6 years and reached Ni Dan... But my studio was not the best studio and i doubt it only taught us TKD... my sensei (or master whatever y'all called him...) was a well respected fighter in the tournament circuit... If you doubt my experience... kewl... i don't like TKD... i'm in Goju-Ryu now... its much better in my opinion... and yes... i believe jumping to be a very important part of TKD... my instructor emphasized jumping a lot... a kick to the head is worth extra points... and he taught us how to win tournaments... that is my two cents... -Gor Student- Okinawan Goju-Ryu: Miyagi Style
onesimusTKD Posted February 4, 2002 Posted February 4, 2002 I think jumping is something that is up to the instructor. I know TKD is known for it's flashy kicks, including jump kicks. I have used very few in sparring situations. In real life situations, I would never leave the ground. But, I have seen World Champion Kickboxers use them effectively in the ring...SO...I guess...You can practice TKD without the jumping... Second Degree Black BeltMember: Kokon Ryu Bujutsu Renmei,Valadez Kenpo Association *Illinois State Representative*, Universal Taekwondo Association, Martial Arts Weapons Association, International Sung-ja do Association.
Deathcometh Posted February 22, 2002 Posted February 22, 2002 Once again it just depends on the person your fighting (do you know the persons style?). But if you know how to block well and still stay on your feet then no kicking isn't required.
MichiganTKD Posted February 8, 2004 Posted February 8, 2004 In answer to the question asked: No, it is not necessary to be a good jumper to excel in Tae Kwon Do. It is necessary to train to be able to make your kicks effective. Being able to jump is like frosting on a cake. If you focus on the frosting, you miss the main part. If your basic kicks don't work, jumping will not help you. It's fun to do, but not a prerequisite, and anyone who thinks it is is missing the big picture. I know lots of Tae Kwon Do students who can't jump. Their kicking is still okay, because it has accuracy and power, and that is the main thing. My instructor never really demonstrated jumping, and I only saw one picture of him doing one. But he had a side kick that would rattle your teeth if he hit you with it. The picture was a double side kick, by the way. My opinion-Welcome to it.
White_Tiger Posted February 8, 2004 Posted February 8, 2004 MichiganTKD had the best answer. You can excel without the fluffy jump kicks. Solid basics!! It is fun to learn the jump kicks, and it is a great workout to practice them. Know your basics though...if you are doing those wrong then everything else you do is wrong. Of course we have Taezee to ask! According to him he is the expert! How lucky we are! Good luck!
delta1 Posted February 8, 2004 Posted February 8, 2004 Well, my two cents (from the most junior TKD practicioner here), I refuse to jump. First, my knees won't take it. But more important, when you jump you give up your base. Not a good thing, in my book. I've seen too many ma's look real good going up, but they splatter when they land. No, thanks. Freedom isn't free!
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