are real fights necessary for becoming a good fighter?

[Loony_midget]

Have you ever noticed in competition how no two rounds or matches are ever alike? That's simply because no two fighters are alike. If you train constantly with the same partners, you figure out their pattern and can start to control the situation in your favour.

 

But in a street fight, when you're up against somebody you've never met, how can you possibly know what they are going to do? You don't know their mindset, their experience or background. They could a very bad fighter or a natural born killer.

 

In my opinion, you can't train for street fights. No two confrontations will ever be alike, because like I stated earlier in this post, no two aggressors or fighters are alike. You can obviously train to deal with things like tunnel vision ("blanking out") or how to cope with the adrenaline rush. You best bet is to be environmentally aware. If you can spot a potentially threatening situation before it actually occurs, you can then do your best to, as the old saying goes, "run like hell." At the end of the day, the best you can do should you be caught in a fight is train your butt off in the gym and try your best to utilise what techniques work best for you.

[Drunken Monkey]

hey, anyone got the game of death dvd with the inosanto seminar on the bonus disk?

 

'you should have an equaliser, throw sand, pick up a picture frame, run fast, we used to have an aerobics program....'

 

 

i used to have a friend who, when he sees a situation brewing, would make his way slowly to where the trouble was...

 

he once disappeared from campus for a few days then turned up with his arm in a sling, and wearing shades....

[Blade3]

It's like the military you can train (like I did years ago) like an animal and go through all the cool schools and within a couple of years have a sleeve full of patches I.E. Ranger, Special Forces, Path Finder, Airborne,Sniper, Recon,etc;etc; You'll be veiwed as elite and your unit as Hi speed but until your involved in the real deal (not war games) your only on stan by and constantly prepareing which I did for six years and never saw actual combat.

 

Now back in May I was at LAX & met a 20 yr. old that was in an Infantry unit & we chated for about an hour & he never been to jump school or any other hi speed school in his two years enlisted but his unit was/is in the Iraq war. I could see it in his eyes and hear it in his voice that he'd seen & smelled death upclose.

 

He had a two week leave & then had to go back. Now in my opinion that boy is hooah!!

 

Why because without all the tabs & patches he still had to go to war & that was not reserved for elite units, guys like myself can sit around a table at lunch or a bar after work and razz each other about what units we were in & who had the bigger b* but your all the same to certain extent if you didn't have to use it & that's a good thing.

 

That's just my anology of styles, belts, & training.

 

Train hard & always ask questions & ask yourself can I use at least 85% of what's being taught? A lot of the guys that I train with who've been training for 15-25 years remember back in the late 70's & 80's when they trained for 6 days a week and there was always classes & open mat time & lots of sparring with some end results being busted lips & broken limbs. Those days are over in most places, especialy in LA someone always has a acting class or a second job to pay for the acting classes.

 

I try to get people to stay after class & sparr & work on techniques, we were on fire until the summer came & now the Wed & Fri open mat & sparring that's already apart of the curricular only have about 5 people show up. So until the fall shows up I just work out with whoever I can out side of class, work on my foot work, punch & kick the h&II outta the bag, have my girl hit me with the medicine ball etc;

 

I'm sure those things will work but guess what ? One day I'll be seventy & do I or any of my pears still need do get into fights to know if we can defend ourselves?

[White Warlock]

Interesting perspective Blade. Thank you.

[ShunGokuSatsu]

I believe you do have to at least been in a few fights to see how good a fighter you are. One of my friends was the state grandchampion of MKA (Mississippi Karate Association) and thought he was a hard-*. Then one day he got into a fight at the local Sunflower and came back with a shiner and a busted lip and was limping. We asked him what happened but he wouldn't say. I didn't find out until the next day he got the living crap beaten out of him by one of his brother's friends that they had picked a fight with. Someone even made a joke that the reason he was limping was because someone shoved their foot in his *. The point of this: just because you're a good point sparrer don't mean squat in the streets.

[Luckykboxer]

Just being a veteran of many many fights, different types and different conditions, I can state with 100% confidence that the experience that comes from true combat, in this case hand to hand does in fact mean the difference between a good fighter and a great fighter.

 

Every fight i have i go in more comfortable and more knowledgable having faced 1 more scenario or 1 more different thing the fight before.

[Blade3]

Just being a veteran of many many fights, different types and different conditions, I can state with 100% confidence that the experience that comes from true combat, in this case hand to hand does in fact mean the difference between a good fighter and a great fighter.

 

Every fight i have i go in more comfortable and more knowledgable having faced 1 more scenario or 1 more different thing the fight before.

You guy's make some good points...but...

 

As for me I'm 37 years old with two young children & have nothing to prove but if confronted In know that I can handle the threat.

 

Also I know that it can be a testosorone thing with us guys cause some nights I might be hangin' out in Hollywood and you have some youg knuckle heads who might try to mad dog stare at me & I'm sometimes tempetd to feed into that * & start handing out a couple of 40's of Woop *.

 

I 've worked as a bouncer for 6 years & had my share of fights, I quit 5 years ago and have only had two fights since & both of those came last summer in Philly when a drunk staggered out of a club up the street from my moms apartment and called me a racial slur I punched him in the solar plex & knocked him out. A month later I was standing out on my moms steps & at 3:00 AM & noticed her car that had been in an accident was shaking. I go up to it & see this couple (Patrons of the sam club) sexing it up in the back seat. I told them to get out and had to aruge about who's car it was (GO figure) the nerve of some crimals these days. After they disembarked dude tried to swing & I busted him up and left him there gasping for air and his date hysterical.

 

Two days before I was to return to Cali I was leaving a corner store & this guy shows up with a broken arm & a limp & 8 of his boys & one has his hand in his jacket as if he were strapped.

 

I had a hand full of groceries & no where to run so we argued as was still trying to walk away and get closer to safety the guys who worked at the store knew me & my family as well as these guys so it was some what squashed but one of the guy said that I better watch my back. I'm a Christian but that old me from the streets wanted to call up some of my old crew & go to where these fools hung out & blast on em'. But where would I be now? probably in jail if caught , and I surely would have had to move my mom up outta there but I just had to swallow my pride & take it to God in prayer & thank Him that it didn't go any futher.

 

See where fighing out side the ring will take you these days? Even when you're defending yourself?

 

I don't know how old you guys are or where you're from but that's the way things go down in Philly & LA & I'm sure some other places.

[Luckykboxer]

are real fights necessary for becoming a good fighter?

that was the question...

You guy's make some good points...but...

 

As for me I'm 37 years old with two young children & have nothing to prove but if confronted In know that I can handle the threat.

 

was your first comment....

I 've worked as a bouncer for 6 years & had my share of fights

 

Ummm doesnt this fall under the category of you had real fights to become a good fighter?

 

I personally think fighting is alot like riding a bike.. you may not have the chance to do it after 10 years but when you do again you will know how...

 

this comes from the actual experience.

 

I think it actually helps bolster the point of having to have real fights

[Martial_Artist]

Q: TOPIC.

 

A: Yes.

[Vito]

what about ring figthing? do you guys think that counts? i think it helps more than anything except real fights maybe.