krunchyfrogg Posted February 5, 2004 Posted February 5, 2004 This is strange. I never thought anyone could learn karate (well) at home. I've always thought a personal touch was very important, and that a student needs to work with higher ranking students and a Sensei. I've also heard World Oyama Karate was a reputable, good place to learn karate, so what's going on here? http://www.brooknet.com/oyama/ "A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives."-- Jackie Robinson"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."-- Edmund Burke
equaninimus Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 That pretty much confirms a lot of what I have thought about the Oyama lineage styles. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
Knockdown Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 That pretty much confirms a lot of what I have thought about the Oyama lineage styles. is this where the style bashing starts?
krunchyfrogg Posted February 6, 2004 Author Posted February 6, 2004 Please don't turn this into a bashing thread. I've heard many good things about that style, and basically chose the one I did over it b/c it's slightly cheaper and the location (I live UNDER my dojo!). I plan on moving next year, after getting married, and if there's a Oyama school nearby, I'll definitely consider it. But, the online option does confuse me. Without bashing World Oyama Karate, the real question is: does anyone think you can actually learn karate online? "A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives."-- Jackie Robinson"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."-- Edmund Burke
equaninimus Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 Didn't the Tracy Kenpo system teach by mail for years? No, I don't think one can learn online. I know many fine Oyama lineage karateka, but I don't think any of them would support this! I wonder if this is actualy endorsed by Oyama Shigeru, or if this is somebody's idea of how to make a quick buck? I just posted the link as a thread in the "baffling Budo" section of E-budo, so someone who knows something should have an answer..I hope. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
Knockdown Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 there is some um strife in the World Oyama Karate Organization right now. They have had this link up for quite some time. but now it seems to have replaced their main website. Hopefully they get things sorted out soon. I am not saying i approve of this type of thing. If you read the FAQ they provide, you can only rank through the first few low Kyu ranks. not sure if that makes it any better . . . . . Shigeru Oyama is retiring. Or I guess I should say he already has.
kotegashiNeo Posted February 6, 2004 Posted February 6, 2004 It seems like someone is out to make a quick buck. That is okay because it is a good system with a remarkable creator. Kisshu fushin oni te hotoke kokoro
aefibird Posted February 7, 2004 Posted February 7, 2004 IMO, it isn't possible just to learn karate through the internet (or books or videos or whatever). Really, you need the experiance and guidance of a good sensei. At least with this sceme you can only acheive low kyu grades online. That doesn't necessarily make it right, but at least it reduces the number of useless blackbelts that there are out there if you can't get a blackbelt with this course online. I've always heard that World Oyama Karate is a good place to learn karate. Please lets not turn this into a style bashing thread! "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers!
ESA-Shotokan Posted February 8, 2004 Posted February 8, 2004 If you are familiar to karate from any style, then maybe an online tutorial can demonstrate what the World Oyama Karate is about. If you are a totally new karateka then I would have to say, no, online training is a none win situation. The most important thing for a beginner in a dojo is training with a sensei and the members of the dojo. When you find a particular move or combination hard, it is quite confidence building to get the same feedback from other pupils. One obvious question is how do you approach a class in the future on passing the online kyu grades, when you have to tell the respective sensei that you previously learned via the web? It is not a very cheap course so I would personally recommend a real dojo.
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