Knockdown Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Hi i´ve training Shotokan since 1990, since i move to another city i coulnd´t keep on trinning because there was no Shotokan Dojos around. But there where a few of kyokushin Kai Karate , Im trinning that style since then. So here are a few questions: - Do I have to start all over from white belt? - Is there a real diference in the techniques? (couldnt se any) - Is wrong for my original style to change to another? Thank you... OSSU.... In general ranks from other stylrs will not be transferable toa Kyokushin Dojo. If you came from one of the offshoots of Kyokushin, then maybe, or there may be a "probationary" time. So, obviously, you always keep yoour rank in your root style, no one is taking that away from you. But you really have no rank In Kyokushin and you are starting over at 10th Kyu. This is the way I handle it, and the way my seniors handle it. Due to some overlap, you may indeed progress faster than a complete novice. or the subtle and not so subtle) difference may drive you crazy and actually slow down your progress There will be differences. some very minor, and some almost a whole different beast. Kihon may bear the most similarity. I think an examle of Forefist Rising Block may be quite similar. Front stance is more alike than not. but the more you get into the new style you will see some changes. who knows which is "right" or "Wrong" but if you are trying to learn a NEW style to you, then the WHEN IN ROME saying will apply. Changing from one style to another is a personal choice. Since you have no Shotokan Dojo in your new area your options become limited. some options [brainstorming]: -train on your own all the time practicing what you know. -make frequent trips to seminars and gatherings -find training partners to do routines with -quit training all together -Open your own Shotokan Dojo -train with the Kyokushin club once and a while -fully embrace the (new to you) Kyokushin way. -move to somewhere there is a Shotokan Doko. good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Actually there are a number of differences. While Oyama did study goju and shotokan, he modified his system quite a bit. In kyokushin, their delivery of the roundhouse kick is different. they also have no pads and full contact sparring from the start. They clinch and knee a lot also. There training methods are very intense. As I have fought in about 75 sabaki/kyokushin style matches, I can give you more details. Feel free to email me at ichibushi@hotmail.com Actually by current Kyokushin Competition rules there is no clinching. Kneeing allowed obviously but for tournament fighting, NO grabbing. This may not enforced in the Dojo though. Shidokan, SeidoKaiKan, etc will still allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 You'll love kyokushin. It's a different style for sure, but many things are similar. In my dojo we are influanced by full contact karate but stick to our shotokan syllabus. I say go for it, even if they make you wear white, it won't be for long. thank you for mentioning the Syllabus. this may be helpful for the original individual asking the question: http://www.pris.bc.ca/karate/adultsyllabus.htm Typical Kyokushin Syllabus and the one we follow in my dojo as well. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equaninimus Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 (edited) Kumite is optional over 35..why should you young whipppersnappers haev all the fun???!!!??? (edited) Edited February 6, 2004 by equaninimus There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Kata is optional over 35..why should you young whipppersnappers haev all the fun???!!!??? it should not say kata is optional. the full contact fighting is optional, for those who are over 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equaninimus Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Optional..gee sonny..I'll whack you with my cane! There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natural Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Goodluck in trainning there, me myself have to even move country so i will be strating in go-ju ryu I herd its fantastic. A karate punch it is like a dasvasted stick blow. Instead, a blow of Kung Was is comparable to a lash with a chain that has attacked, allaltra extremity one ball of ferro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mink Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 Kumite: 10 - 15 matches (1.5 mins), (kumite is optional for ages over 35). Have you always done that amount? At our Kyokushin club the shodan grading does 40 rounds which he has to be dominate for at least half of them. Even between the same style there are differences.! https://www.Kyokushinaustralia.comDont be Bias in styles for we are all Practitioners of Martial Arts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockdown Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 Kumite: 10 - 15 matches (1.5 mins), (kumite is optional for ages over 35). Have you always done that amount? At our Kyokushin club the shodan grading does 40 rounds which he has to be dominate for at least half of them. Even between the same style there are differences.! I joined this group about 4 years ago, and that is the way they do it. yes, even in the same style there will be significant differences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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