ESA-Shotokan Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 I was obviously asleep or the such when this happened, but I have read elsewhere that the kata Ji'in is no longer recognised by the JKA and that this has been the case for some, four years now! Does anybody else know more about that?
Sho-ju Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 I've never heard that. Maybe email them, it's still listed on JKA sites and in JKA books.
equaninimus Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 Since when? And which "JKA"? There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
aefibird Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 I hadn't heard that. As far as I know it is still recognised as a Shotokan kata, including with the JKA (in all its various forms!). ESA-Shotokan, where did you read that info? "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers!
ESA-Shotokan Posted January 30, 2004 Author Posted January 30, 2004 Sensei Sugiura officially announced that this was no longer a recognised JKA kata around 4 years ago. At the Crystal Palace course in August, Sensei Ueki told students taking 4th Dan to pick another kata when they announced Ji'in.
Karateka Posted January 31, 2004 Posted January 31, 2004 he may have wanted them to do a more difficult kata. I am not sure about this one. The problem I see with that is that it is on the WKF's Kata list, and it says that Shotokan recognizes it. I don't know...maybe things have changed. "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei)
Kumite988 Posted February 3, 2004 Posted February 3, 2004 students taking 4th Dan to pick another kata when they announced Ji'in. Wait...they did Jiin for a 4th Dan test...? Strange. I assume Ji'in. Is the same as Jiin. This is odd because we test Jiin for 2nd Kyu. This is shito-ryu...
equaninimus Posted February 3, 2004 Posted February 3, 2004 Shito also has 40-60 katas, compared to Shoto's 26. There have always been Starkadders at Cold Comfort Farm!
G95champ Posted February 8, 2004 Posted February 8, 2004 Kenneth Funakoshi still does it but under the spelling of Giin. Same kata. The JKA don't do a few now from what I hear such as Wankan, and Meiyko. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
G95champ Posted February 8, 2004 Posted February 8, 2004 Sorry I hit post to soon lol Reasons for this vary but this one makes sense to me. The JKA goes by the Best karate books written by (sp) Nakiyamia. However he died before writting the book on Giin, Wankan, and Meyiko. So they have stopped doing them because those books are basically their guidlines. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
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