returning_wave Posted January 26, 2004 Posted January 26, 2004 From doing research into pressure point martial arts, I have come across two major schools of teaching: the old chinese energy channels teaching, which friend of mine does at his shotokan dojo, and swears by, and the scientific study of anatomical weaknesses. As a scientific person with no time for religion of any kind I would tend towards the latter but Im interested in what you all think. Which way do you think about martial arts? is the lower abdomen a mystical energy centre or just the human centre of gravity? 3rd Kyu - Variant ShotokanTaijutsu"We staunt traditionalists know that technique is nowhere near as important as having your pleats straight when you die."
Sasori_Te Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Well, being that it is medically proven that the body utilizes bioelectricity in the form of brainwaves and signal transmission for the nervous system I'd say, as with most arguments, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I had a doctor in a class tell me that some pressure points do not lie over any major nerve centers or arteries that would cause a reaction if struck. He didn't have a medical explanation for it. But, like him, I don't believe there is anything mystical or magical about it. The body is a machine, a device that allows our minds to do physical work. All machines need a source of power. We just don't happen to understand that power source completely yet. At least not from a Western medical perspective. In the same breath I don not buy into all of the mysticism surrounding internal styles like Xingyi and Baguazhang.The body works the way it works. You don't need magic to activate internal power. A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.
aznkarateboi Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Well, who are you gonna trust more, people now or people back then? How would people back then know any more then science allows us to know today?
delta1 Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Well, who are you gonna trust more, people now or people back then? How would people back then know any more then science allows us to know today? Centuries before quantum physics, Taoist philosiphers theorized that most of matter was space. Of course, theirs a lot more to quantum physics. Centuries before modern scientists categorized snow into over 60 different types, Eskimoes had over 60 names for snow. But then, we do know more about snow now than then. Centuries before psychologists told us it wasn't their fault, murderers and other degenerate trash were removed from society. On the other hand, psychology can be used for prevention or intervention. Centuries before modern medicine and drug companies, people knew how to get a lot of the same remedies right out of their own garden. But there's a whole lot of drugs you can't get any where else but from a pharmasutical company. Why do we have to be so exclusive in who we trust- especially when modern science so often agrees with and proves ancient 'wisdom'? Not saying take everything at face value. Ancients were wrong about some things, as are moderns. And many things then and now were driven by politics and greed. So use common sense no matter who asks your trust. But centuries of proven effectiveness is a foolish reason to discredit something. Freedom isn't free!
Treebranch Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 You can't prove everything with science. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
JerryLove Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 You can't prove everything with science. There is no other way to prove anyhthing... unless you are simply saying "we can't prove everything". https://www.clearsilat.com
Treebranch Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 All I have to say is OJ Simpson. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
delta1 Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 Treebranch[/u] & delta1"]Treebranch: All I have to say is OJ Simpson. delta1: Centuries before psychologists told us it wasn't their fault, murderers and other degenerate trash were removed from society. Freedom isn't free!
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