CTpizzaboy Posted November 7, 2001 Posted November 7, 2001 In point sparring, a good feint is crucial in getting the winning point. One of my favorite is suddenly raising my leading hand, startling the opponent to block high, then to cover the distance, a step-slide fast front kick to the stomach. Another one is lifting my leading leg as if to perform a front kick, the opponent block low as I execute a hook kick across the helmet. For me, I try to use the feint at the beginning of the match, right before the referee yells to fight. The opponent does not know what to expect and I get a free point. Well, nothing is free...but alot of training gives me the upper hand. When I come up with more feints I'll share them. With feints, timing is the key. What is your favorite feint? Canh T.I often quote myself. It adds spice to my conversations.
Kickbutt Posted November 8, 2001 Posted November 8, 2001 Oh THANK-YOU!!! I've been wanting tips on feinting...any more you have, I'd really appreciate it!! Cheers pizzaboy! Lori :pony: If you think something small cannot make a difference - try going to sleep with a mosquito in the room.-Unknown-
Angus Posted November 8, 2001 Posted November 8, 2001 Haha, nice - but i wouldn't go doing any feints in a real fight. I suppose with point sparring or general sparring u might flick your hands up near their head and come in with a thrusting knee or something. I don't usually do point sparring. Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.
Slim Posted November 8, 2001 Posted November 8, 2001 "Attack by deception, especially, is the attack of the master. The master boxer has at his command techniques that bewilder and confuse the opponant, thereby creating many openings. He feints his opponent into "knots." He combines hitting with feints in such a manner that both appear to be the same. He draws his opponent towards him, forcing whatever he desires. Through defensive hitting and judicious movement, he keeps his opponant off balance. The master boxer has the ability to get in close and understands the value of in-fighting. He has so perfected the shift that it is used for attack as well as defense. Finally, he is the master of counter-fighting, for he knows when to attack and when to allow attack. Scientific attack, then, is no simple matter, but requires years of study and practice for its successful use." Bruce Lee, Tao of Jeet Kune Do, p72 [ This Message was edited by: Slim on 2001-11-07 23:21 ]
Cory Reynolds Posted February 25, 2002 Posted February 25, 2002 Pizzaboy, when you mean feints, do you mean the same thing as fakes? Where I train, we use the term "feint" the same way as boxers, a certain technique that involves shifting your weight to the left or right slightly to avoid a kick or punch. Wise man once said "he who has big mouth has much room for foot."
CTpizzaboy Posted February 26, 2002 Author Posted February 26, 2002 No, a feint is not like weaving and bobing to let a punch pass by for you to counter. A feint is more like misdirection, what magicians do. Say a boxer 1 lowers his guard, and sticks his head forward suddenly. The opponent sees that as an open and go for a knock-out. But it was all planned, the moment the opponent strike with the reverse punch, boxer 1 shift to the right, missing the punch, and counters with a hook. The opponent goes down. A feint is a move that startles your opponent as you counter or strike. In class while sparring, get within kicking range, then suddenly shift your weight to your front foot. See what happens, what is the reaction. Canh T.I often quote myself. It adds spice to my conversations.
Cory Reynolds Posted February 26, 2002 Posted February 26, 2002 I guess we deffinately use the term differently where I train. We call it a fake, as in faking your opponent into thinking that you're attacking somewhere, then when they lower their guard you attack somewhere else. Or faking by moving your body in a certain direction, etc. [ This Message was edited by: Cory Reynolds on 2002-02-26 14:14 ] Wise man once said "he who has big mouth has much room for foot."
Shaolin Posted February 27, 2002 Posted February 27, 2002 [ This Message was edited by: Shaolin on 2002-02-28 05:27 ] Moy Yat Ving Tsun Rest in peace: Moy Yat Sifu
Shaolin Posted February 27, 2002 Posted February 27, 2002 On 2002-02-26 14:13, Cory Reynolds wrote: I guess we deffinately use the term differently where I train. We call it a fake, as in faking your opponent into thinking that you're attacking somewhere, then when they lower their guard you attack somewhere else. Or faking by moving your body in a certain direction, etc. Yes that is correctly called a fake. A feint is done with the head. Be careful with those fakes, the high hand to mid kick is one of the oldest in the book. In Wing Chun we couldn't care less if it's a fake or the real thing - our reaction is the same - we will kick/hit you - if you're in range. That's called a stop-hit. If you're interested in these types of tactics check into JKD's Indirect Attack and Progressive Indirect Attacks, the latter involves changing the direction of a kick or strike mid-way through the stroke - a little harder to counter. Jim Moy Yat Ving Tsun Rest in peace: Moy Yat Sifu
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