BruceLee Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 I was planning on joining the wrestling team next year, and I was wondering if there was any specific style of jiujitsu or any other martial art that would be good to learn that would help me in using techniques on the wrestling team. I don't wanna break their arms or anything, just learn different takedowns and grapples. The meaning of life... is to live.
Bdaze Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 well, technically submission wrestling or catch wrestling, but that doesnt sound like what you're looking for. BJJ would probably be good considering it's depth and mastery of ground work (which is all you'll be doing in wrestling) i wouldn't bother with TJJ or Judo. the opertunity to throw someone (the area inwhich these styles excell) NEVER presents it's self in greco roman and most of the rest of the stuff is covered in BJJ Sambo could be cool as well. but chances are you wont be able to find a good school. if you can't find a BJJ school or a Submission wrestling school TJJ and Judo might work. some training is better than nothing even if it isn't ideal. If in your journey you encounter God, God will be cut ~Hatori Hanso (sonny chiba)
WolverineGuy Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 BJJ will have you getting used to spending time on your back...not exactly what you want in wrestling. I'd actually go the opposite way that Bdaze said and go with Judo...it'll help more with your clinch game than BJJ, which is where wrestlers really shine. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
rb Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 I totally second judo. Alot of the outstanding wrestlers on the uni team were or still are judoka. I practice with the wrestling club every once and a while and judo's standup has proved very valuable. It's hard to break the habit of getting on your back though as judo and wrestling have different approaches to scoring there.
Reklats Posted January 24, 2004 Posted January 24, 2004 I'm not an expert, but having done high school wrestling and bjj, bjj will teach you some bad habits for folk wrestling, and emphasizes fighting on the ground more than getting to the ground. Wrestling gives you a great skill base for jiu-jitsu though.
BruceLee Posted January 25, 2004 Author Posted January 25, 2004 I always thought Judo was more of a throwing and takedown martial art, not really a "wrestling" martial art. The meaning of life... is to live.
WolverineGuy Posted January 25, 2004 Posted January 25, 2004 Judo is a complete grappling art. As far as wrestling goes, you're going to spend most of your time trying to get your opponent to the ground anyways. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon."
shanemm Posted January 26, 2004 Posted January 26, 2004 well i went from judo to wrestling and it helped a lot. ie. knowing how to breakfall when you coach shows you a double leg takedown, knowing how to move and setting up patterns of movements before a throw or takedown, and how to break balance. reguardless of which art you choose there are a few things i wish i would have known/done before i started wrestling.... 1. be extremely flexable. this helps to get your legs in and around the guy when your on the bottum plus it makes your shots faster. 2. do tons of squats, push-ups, curls, and lunges. this will get you in great muscular condition to wrestle. 3. do lots of sprints. jogging isn't as needed cause you usually don't need to sustain cardio longer than 10 seconds. 4. shoot in an L. you'll learn this but it's good to know before hand. when you want to shoot for a leg first lower your body into a crouched position(like your going to jump really high) then shoot straight for the leg(s), keep the arms in tight and not like your going to hug them. also remember not to reach but to move your whole body for a shot. 5. don't cross face. remember this, cause a lot of coaches like to teach cross face. instead push the head down and try to get out, you'll see what i mean. 6. when practicing the martial art, tell your teacher that you plan on going into wrestling. he should teach you more how to throw someone without a gi to hold on than with the gi. good luck. There are two types of people in the world. Those that find excuses and those that find a way.-Unknown
Bdaze Posted January 26, 2004 Posted January 26, 2004 BJJ will have you getting used to spending time on your back...not exactly what you want in wrestling correction, you will spend alot of time getting OFF your back. i wrestled for years with the YMCA and if theres one thing i learned from it, it's that escapes and counters and speed are as important if not more so than takedowns if you've ever wrestled Greco Roman or Jersey style, you know it's almost imposible to stay off your back if someones trying to pin you. this area requires ALOT of training to achieve mastery in and i feel BJJ does a very good job teaching you this Judo might not be a bad idea, but i dont think it's the best. and you'll probably get called for holding on a few moves (in wrestling you can never lock your hands together) If in your journey you encounter God, God will be cut ~Hatori Hanso (sonny chiba)
BruceLee Posted January 28, 2004 Author Posted January 28, 2004 Yeah, I've seen some of the Gracie brothers fight in UFC and other things like that and I've seen their techniques, it's pretty crazy stuff. I saw a book on it at barnes and nobles, maybe I should take a look at that, since that's about the closest I'll get to learning BJJ. The meaning of life... is to live.
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