Easy to Sweep a Karateka?

[kotegashiNeo]

That is interesting have you tried that against any judoka your stance that is. Oh and which karate stance were you talking about was there one in particular or were you referring to all of them. I am just curious did you include natural stance, you know the stance most judoka randori in.

[aefibird]

I think it just depends on the person doing the sweeping. Maybe the Lau Gar guy is better at sweeping than the karateka you've trained with before?

 

It's not about stances - sweeps can be done from any stance. A sweep takes place because the one doing the sweep has good timing and skill and knows which sweep technique to use in a given situation.

[SevenStar]

your can only be swep if you have to much weight on a foot all styles and all stackes are possible to be sweep. Has a lot ot do with how fast and strong the sweeper is.

 

No. you need committed motion. if you are stepping forward, you have no weight on your leg, because it's off the ground. BUT, you are commited go going forward, and expect that foot to touch the ground. If I sweep it before it touches - you fall. ko uchi gari, de ashi barai, etc. are all examples of this. It's a timing issue, not a speed and strength issue. There are throws where I want your weight on one foot, but for sweeping, I want to catch you in mid step, after you have committed to a motion. If you foot is planted, it's much harder to sweep it. The two exceptions to this are o soto gari and ko soto gake.

[Drunken Monkey]

and there's the issue of how you are 'set up' for the sweep.

 

there's a little trick we do in wing chun which is to shift your weight (or make you shift your weight).

 

a simple example is that after contact/interception, i push or pull your elbow (or shoulder depending on the point of contact) to force you to commit to a sence of motion then we shift your foot.

[Natural]

My shifting your weight even somone ty to sweep you you cannot be felt down to the ground evn if you are in a forward stance position i belive that a karate stance is much songer then a kug fu stance.

[Drunken Monkey]

once again, some more specific information would be nice instead of vague remarks.

[martialartsresearcher]

To me. if you get the sweep just right... BAMM! you can sweep any one. just my 2 cents. See ya.

[kotegashiNeo]

every sweep in judo requires kuzushi or a break in balance. Kuzushi can be done in straight line or a curved one and in every direction. Combined with Tai-sabaki (body control) and Tsukuri (proper body alignment). To make a really long technical lesson short judoka can sweepany stance just the same as long as the person is upright, If you have the stance judo has the sweep. What sweep was this instructor talking about: deashi hari,or are we including knee wheels as well or, just specifically foot sweeps because there are lots of good reaps and supporting lift throws that would seem like sweeps that aren't. Anyway don't like to hog a thread but such a generalized statement by a black sash it just seems like the dude hasn't done his homework which is a shame because he is now eating his foot...........sweep

[SevenStar]

My shifting your weight even somone ty to sweep you you cannot be felt down to the ground evn if you are in a forward stance position i belive that a karate stance is much songer then a kug fu stance.

 

* - I would suggest you go play with a judo guy...

 

when you are in your forward stance (which the EXACT SAME STANCE in kung fu is called a bow and arrow stance) you are balance both directly forward and backward. I will not be able to sweep you in those directions. But, your balance is weak on the diagonals, and I can easily sweep you there.

 

Remember this: NO SINGLE STANCE IS RESISTANT TO A SWEEP OR THROW. There are 8 angles I can use to off balance you, and no stance will cover more than 2 - 4. the key is balance and mobility, NOT your stance.

[kotegashiNeo]

Thanks for repeating what I said sevenstar