SevenStar Posted January 23, 2004 Posted January 23, 2004 not at all. here's an experiment... find someone who only does stance training. find another who only lifts weights. let them trade exercises. That's an entirely different question. There you are asking "which one builds better weightlifting ability, weightlifting or stance training". Your statement was that stance training does not build strength. You need to take someone not doing it, check their strength (squat weight if you like), then have them do it and see if it improves... unless they are already doing some other leg-strength training, it will.that goes for all body weight exercises. I can bench press 280lbs. a guy that can do 100 pushups but does not lift weights will not be able to. Why? because by doing a pushup, he is only pushing about 80% of his bodyweight, and the resistance never increases... And without increasing resistance, his strength will not go up *as much* as it will with weightlifting. But people who do pushups are stronger than people who sit on the couch... even if the person on the couch is trong enough to do a pushup. Feel a leatherworkers handshake, feel a runner's kick, feel a sewer's finger strength. These come from repetitive muscle use, not severe muscle use. I agree with that. The last part of my statement was "unless they are weak to begin with" in the beginning stages, it builds strength, but that benefit tapers off and endurance enhancement takes over.
jeffrogers Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Stances, In a fight your moving more. Stances are used as a training tool to build balance, weight distribution and if your moving in the stance application of weight. For example moving into crain position or bringing the knee up. Used as a tool for balance for begginers on one leg as well as chambering the knee. Also later on movign into that postion used in several grappling moves. Megaton Diez does a throw were he brings one of his knee's up as he throws. It helps bring up the base or transfer more weight into that throw. Same with certain wrist locks and joint locks to move the person it can help pick up your weight ot move them. As for cat stance, say you have one leg foward and you pull back to cat you can use the pull on back on teh lead foot that helps genrate power from the legs to propel the body weight forward little bit adding more body weight when you hit. Making your hit harder. -Jeff
Treebranch Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 Stances are usually positions of power with multiple uses. However, just the act of moving from stance to stance can get you out of harms way. Of course not all the time, but it's interesting. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Drunken Monkey Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 but that's kinda the point of stances. we might train them 'stationary' but they are very much a thing that is meant to be in motion. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
SevenStar Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 which is why, IMO, they should be trained in motion. For the internal guys, I can see an exception, as horse is used to develop whipping power.
jeffrogers Posted January 31, 2004 Posted January 31, 2004 My point exactly you need motion to use the weight. -Jeff
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