Rich_2k3 Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Do u think by only studying striking styles or by only studying throwing/grappling styles u are seriously flawed as a fighter if u were attacked. I mean what if someone charges u and tries to wrestle with u, if u only know striking techniques then u might struggle a bit, or it could be the other way round. Now theres nothing wrong with studying just one style that only emcompeses one of those fighting types, but do u think that overall u would be better prepared for street fights if u studied one of each or maybe a style that covers both types of fighting in good detail? "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Yes, I think a person needs to be well rounded in striking and grappling skills if he seriously expects to use his training in a real confrontation some day. However, if he doesn't practice other than for enjoyment or competition where only striking (point tournaments for example) or only grappling (judo tournaments for example) and never expects to use it in a real fight, then I think he's getting what he's paying for. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineGuy Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 I agree. It just depends on what your goals are. If you leave a hole in your game, it only matters if you're in a situation where that hole will be exposed... i.e. I don't care about my grappling ability in a point sparring tournament, nor do I care about my elbow strikes in a pure grappling match. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 i think flawed is perhaps the wrong word to use. there is nothing wrong with focusing on one art, you just have to be aware of the limits. think of it like a gearbox. you can set up a box to have stupidly close ratios to maximise the initial acceleration but this limits your top speed. or you can draw out your ratios, lose your acceleration but have much superior top speed. both have merits and best suit different situations. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sano Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 no. it depends on how you train thats way they say to be a master of a few good moves. M. Ali was the master of jab gross. super foot bill wallace was the master of the side kick. i'm telling you if you master a few techniques than watch out now. falcon kick!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy_Mendiola Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Yes, I think a person needs to be well rounded in striking and grappling skills if he seriously expects to use his training in a real confrontation some day. However, if he doesn't practice other than for enjoyment or competition where only striking (point tournaments for example) or only grappling (judo tournaments for example) and never expects to use it in a real fight, then I think he's getting what he's paying for.Yeah, It's sorta like taking both arts and mixing them to be a well rounded fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineGuy Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Superfoot had THREE good moves Side, Hook, and round. Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_2k3 Posted January 13, 2004 Author Share Posted January 13, 2004 I suppose flawed is the wrong word, what it means is that u have a weakness somewere, a blind spot if u like, and it may never happen but u may enter a self defence situation and are attacked in a ceratin way that u cannot defend ur self properly, however if u are an allrounder u may have a few tricks to counter it. "When my enemy contracts I expand and when he expands I contract" - Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC-Strayder Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 OK, let me get a couple of things strait here. If Joe Avarage attacs you on the street he would not know a thing about striking but he knows a lot about grappling/wrestling? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think so! In all the fights I have had I never EVER had one of them on the ground, it was striking\kicking all over the place and dare the man who fell to the ground! I personally think you are far better of in a self defence situation knowing a striking art than a grappling art, both striking and grappling is better yet, but if you only gonna use your MA for self defence, then pick a striking art for sure! Forget what you see in UFC, most fights are over in 3 seconds! You don't have the time fooling around on the ground or roll with him until he chokes or taps out, just take him out with punch and/or kicks and get the he77 out of the situation, he might have friends!. I know that many styles, grappling styles included, that don't have self defence training at all or training self defence unrealisticklly, but it all depence on what you gonna use it for, self defence or competition. No disrespect, but I think TKD is a scary example, just so many people thinks that there TKD gonna save them, but they are so wrong! High kicks, unrealistic blocks, pretty, fancy stuff and fair game just isn't for the streets, believe me, I've tried!. No more than rolling on the ground is realistic in a street fight!. But thats my opinion. I do not train to do any competition, I train strickly for self defence and have no fancy stuff, just stuff that works. I would defentlly go for a striking art, or pure self defence art, not for cross training or pure grappling. If the first lesson was a failure, then you know that skydiving isn't for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineGuy Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 No disrespect, but that attitude right there proves the point of why you SHOULD cross train in grappling. Most people are NOT ready for a fight to go to the ground...and if you can take it there, you're good to go! Wolverine1st Dan - Kalkinodo"Shut up brain, or I'll stab you with a q-tip""There is no spoon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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