Sayoc Kali

[Pacificshore]

Is anyone familiar with Sayoc Kali? I just got one of their DVD's, the 3 0f 9 Vital Template, and it was pretty wicked in terms of knife fighting. Does or has anyone been exposed to this form of Kali? I know here on the west coast there isn't any schools available to lean this art, at least to my knowledge.

[JerryLove]

I've run into it indirectly. It seems to be pretty standard fair for Kali. I cannot say I know of a school on the west coast... the only one I know is Orlando.

[Bdaze]

Sayoc Kali is one of the most advanced and extreme knife fighting arts i've ecountered. My dojo is a lisenced dojo that teaches Sayoc kali.

 

the other dojos in the US are in

 

Denver, CO

 

Ocean city, MD

 

Manchester, NH (my dojo)

 

East chester, NY

 

Fresh meadows, NY

 

Manhattan, NY

 

Pleasantville NY

 

Daytona, OH

 

Upper Darby, PA

 

Wichita Falls, TX

 

Woodbridge, VA

 

 

 

these are the ONLY liscenced Sayoc schools in the US. any others are imposteres and you should not take up training there.

 

check out the site https://www.sayoc.com if you havnt already.

 

if it's possible to join a school, do it. it's incredible

[Pacificshore]

Bdaze,

 

Thanks for the input. Man, if I was independently wealth, I would go straight to the source and study there

[tommarker]

extreme knife fighting?? like what? on a hang glider?

[JerryLove]

Thanks for the input. Man, if I was independently wealth, I would go straight to the source and study there

 

his input amounted to "I do the best are, we rule".

these are the ONLY liscenced Sayoc schools in the US. any others are imposteres and you should not take up training there.

 

Licensed by whom exactly? Is the inventor of the name alive? I'm sure I could licence Karate schools and say "only these schools are licensed, the rest are imposters", but I hardly have a claim to the name (heck, I don't even do Karate, much less control the word).

extreme knife fighting?? like what? on a hang glider?

I wonder that myself. I'm in a knife art, one whose approach I like more than the kali approach (I think the FMA stay out to much and do too much "fencing" with blades). For me, a word like "extreme" is an immediate turn-off... it screams of bravado.

[JerryLove]

I took a peek at some of the clips. Two of them very much have the "stand out and fence" thing going. The third (3 of 9 trailer in mpg) is a tad bit better, except I don't understand why the large swing, nor the ignoring of limbs, nor the focus on "powering through" a given target.

 

Damnint man, you have a knife, all you have to do is touch... and while there are some really nice places to touch, there aren't any bad places. Stop focusing so much, stop staying out at meat chopping range (unless you are the only one with a knife), stop allowing your armed opponent to keep control of the weapon.

 

I've got some knife play from my school at home, I'll see if I can't cut a quick clip and put it up on the school website tonight.

[tommarker]

I wonder that myself. I'm in a knife art, one whose approach I like more than the kali approach (I think the FMA stay out to much and do too much "fencing" with blades). For me, a word like "extreme" is an immediate turn-off... it screams of bravado.

 

Well, I guess they say it in order to make themselves stand out from plain old, ordinary and boring knife fighting.

 

Newsflash, kids: fighting with weapons - especially ones where you have to get up close and personal, jab and slash a blade into another person, deal with blood all over the place, and the very real possibility of killing someone -- is about as "extreme" as it gets.

 

Using a knife is NOT cool, and approaching it in that vein sounds like an excellent way to work yourself straight into jail or a grave. If you want to do an art because you want to look slick while taking someone out, you ARE NOT READY to learn it. i.e. GROW UP.

 

I'm sorry that I have to bend the rules of the forum here and get a little mean, but this is serious stuff we're talking about here and someone who talks about how extreme and cool knifefighting is needs to re-examine some things, IMHO.

[Bdaze]

Licensed by whom exactly? Is the inventor of the name alive? I'm sure I could licence Karate schools and say "only these schools are licensed, the rest are imposters", but I hardly have a claim to the name (heck, I don't even do Karate, much less control the word).

 

Lisenced by Tuhon Chris Sayoc. His family invented the style (hence the name SAYOC Kali). Only schools lisenced by Tuhon Chris are real Sayoc Kali school. and all the rest ARE imposters. there are few enough of the schools for them to keep track of all of them.

 

did you even look at the site?

 

and when i said extreme, i didn't mean the popularized meaning

 

 

 

i mean it's not a style for the weak of heart. almost all of the cuts and techniques result in a kill (and a very messy one at that). This style is taught to military black ops in the pihilipines (not sure what they're called) and focusses on ending the fight with a kill in less than a few seconds.

[JerryLove]

Lisenced by Tuhon Chris Sayoc. His family invented the style (hence the name SAYOC Kali).

 

His family? But not him. So, in 5 generations, no other qualified isntructors have ever come out of Sayoc Kali training but the one's you know of?

did you even look at the site?

 

Yes I did. It's a pretty nice site. I like it.

i mean it's not a style for the weak of heart. almost all of the cuts and techniques result in a kill (and a very messy one at that).

 

And you believe that there is a type of knife-fighting which is for the weak of heart and teaches something other than killing your opponent? This is our problem with your statement (other than it simply being boysterous), it has no real meaning as there is not a non-extreme-knife art.

This style is taught to military black ops in the pihilipines (not sure what they're called) and focusses on ending the fight with a kill in less than a few seconds.

 

They should really spend less time on knife play than learning an entire art would constitute and focus on real millitary skills.

 

Which "black ops" group? I'd like to reasearch your claim.