aznkarateboi Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 (edited) I have lots of trouble pulling off standing joint locks during sparring. Can anyone give me some tips to making them work? I saw a similar thread on bullshido which inspired me to post this thread Edited January 6, 2004 by aznkarateboi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Practice them slowely to start with, then add them to your sparring. The best tips i can give without being able to show you individual techniques is this: 1. Make sure you are close enough and keep moving 2. Dont go just for the lock, combine it with strikes and be prepared to flow into other locks if the first doesnt work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Just taking a guess here...are you trying to grab and lock a punch? Voice of experience here..don't! Locks aren't really good for punches because punches are to fast, and you need a bit of time to apply a lock. They work great against grabs, or in a standup, or prone grappling situation. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Locks are only a part of the whole, just another weapon of fighting. If the opportunity for a lock appears take it. If it doesn't, do something else. Locks always best when you've already captured your opponents balance. Learn how to control your opponent balance and most of the time the lock is just icing on the cake. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznkarateboi Posted January 6, 2004 Author Share Posted January 6, 2004 shorinryu- yes your right i do try to apply them against punches but they usually fail. i'll remember to stop doing that. the main problem however is that even when i get a hold on them, despite me having a relatively strong grip they usually pull their hand away sharply or strike me with their other hand and i have a hard time applying their lock this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotegashiNeo Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 try this when applying a joint take out your oppenents balance by sweeping a foot or uprooting them by tilting their head back by pusihing their head. Gine them too things to worry about not just one Kisshu fushin oni te hotoke kokoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 try this when applying a joint take out your oppenents balance by sweeping a foot or uprooting them by tilting their head back by pusihing their head. Gine them too things to worry about not just one Yes, I'd agree with this. It's not easy just grabbing a guy's harm and trying to put a lock on him..that's why grabbing the punch isn't working. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeygirl Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 If you are REALLY fast, you can push their punch off to the side, make your entire body follow that line of motion, and grab the wrist...but it takes timing and incredible skill if your opponent is a quick puncher. It's probably not worth it since you'll probably only make it work.... 10% of the time, if that. 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBN Doug Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 We have dozens of techniques where we're grabbing or locking a punch, but what are you doing (or trying to do) after that? If you just grab it, yeah you're going to get clocked. Our grabs/ locks are only the first in a series of steps for the counter. For instance: X block the puch, clockwise circle as you counter grab their hand, lock the wrist and elbow by grabbing the hand with thumbs on the back of their hand, then kick their midsection in half. Footwork is cricial as well, to keep the proper distance. However, this was difficult enough to put into words. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Fight the person, not the weapon. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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