Icetuete Posted January 3, 2004 Posted January 3, 2004 recently i chatted with a friend who practices Mantis Kung Fu (i am not sure which exactly it was...) and he showed me some of the stuff they do and we talked about styles and such... i was kind of surprised... i am not sure how some of these techniques should serve self defense. mantis kung fu principal basically is a very low stance, followed by a technique and then return into the stance again. i mean... how are you supposed to move in such a low stance? and then there are the hands... here is a picture of a kung fu master: http://www.kung-fu-muenster.net/presse/sigung.jpg so where is this guys guard? this technique is one of the "catch" techniques. and yeah, what for? sry, but i got a very weird impression of the mantis styles please help me out anybody... how do mantis practitioners fight? did i get something wrong?
Drunken Monkey Posted January 4, 2004 Posted January 4, 2004 from what i've seen of mantis, it fights a bit like wing chun. as for the position in the pic, you have to try it for yourself. hold your arms as shown in the pic but with your hand open palm, fingers pointing to the sky. then rotate your hands into the position shown in the pic. you should FEEL you elbow position/structure get more solid. the pinching of the hands also helps in making your structure stronger. * * * what you have to be aware of is that what you see in a form and how mantis is used, are often two different things. as for the low stance, well, i've never seen mantis do that except in the movies... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
rb Posted January 4, 2004 Posted January 4, 2004 Low stance to technique to low stance sounds like a drill. Fighting is done in a less rigid fashion. Keep in mind that joint locks, throws, sweeps are allowed aside from punching and kicking. As such trapping facilitates those techniques. Note trapping is not grabbing a strike. Don't worry, mantis practitioners think TKD ppl are weird too.
Icetuete Posted January 4, 2004 Author Posted January 4, 2004 Don't worry, mantis practitioners think TKD ppl are weird too. oh - ok then; that solves all my problems perhaps u could tell me a little more about how mantis fighters fight and for what reasons these trapping/catching techniques are. is this the primariy focus of mantis is this meant to disable your opponents actions? is this worth using one of your arms? sounds like your very vulnerable in that situation
SevenStar Posted January 7, 2004 Posted January 7, 2004 mantis fights like....well... the mantis. They are all about trapping, locking and finishing. strike comes - pluck it out of the air, attack relentlessly, then finish him. southern mantis in particular is pretty fierce, from what I understand.
jeffrogers Posted January 7, 2004 Posted January 7, 2004 Resistance training, resistance ttraining, Resistance training. Only by resistance and people grow and techniques work.
Drunken Monkey Posted January 7, 2004 Posted January 7, 2004 you can butt your head against a mountain all day long, it aint gonna budge... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
jeffrogers Posted January 10, 2004 Posted January 10, 2004 resistance trainging means. developing power by hitting objects example heavy bag. But for some of the hand postions I seen in Mantis I would use something little more softer and build up. Also partner scenrio work. Were he resists lightly. Or chages angles or such and you adapt to using those technqiues to make them work. For example I will use refrence to Jiu-Jitsu training. Some one gets yo in a rear bear hug pinnging your arms against your body and just hold you there not really going for next step. Or what there intent was. So you work off of that later on they put more reistance nad mostly when Peopel grab you its A. hold you so there buddy hits you or b. Pick you up and slam you on the concrete wrestling style. Idea is to change angles on an attakc or little resistance and then little more then it works out better. Alot of styles can work if you adapt stuff. Thats basically what fighting is abougt. Techniques are okay but they are for repes of moves seeing a possible way moves can go together and for getting across certain concepts. Just resistace trianigna nd changing things up just makes the person adapt more. I usually just sum it up simple terms of resistance training. But I know that can be kind of vague. -Jeff
Drunken Monkey Posted January 10, 2004 Posted January 10, 2004 not vague. over simplistic. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
jeffrogers Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 True some times I speak thinking the other understands or knows what I mean. -Jeff
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