Kung-Fu Hippy Posted December 21, 2003 Posted December 21, 2003 Anyone know a good bo staff technique website? I'm interested in learning how to spin it around in an intimidating way and such.
Shorinryu Sensei Posted December 23, 2003 Posted December 23, 2003 Anyone know a good bo staff technique website? I'm interested in learning how to spin it around in an intimidating way and such. Well, I've seen this in tournaments by some blackbelts in the weapons competition, and it had me laughing so hard it pretty much disabled me for the moment. Take one end and grip it tightly and start swinging it around and around your head like a helicopter! Sure scared the heck out of me to think they called this good technique! lol As to a website, I don't know..have you searched google yet? My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
Bdaze Posted December 24, 2003 Posted December 24, 2003 believe me, spinning it around in an intimidating way is a complete waste of your time in fact it's probably detrimental to your training because if you where to try that stuff in a real confrontation you would lose. unsupported spins like the "figure 8" and "helicopter" look cool but if you hit anything while spinning the stick bounces off or falls out of your hand anyway, if you insist on wasting your time, here's a good site for staff spinning. https://www.homeofpoi.com go to the lessons section and choose "staff lessons" If in your journey you encounter God, God will be cut ~Hatori Hanso (sonny chiba)
OldRookie Posted December 25, 2003 Posted December 25, 2003 We have just started Bo forms this week &--surprise to me-the wife gave me a new one for Christmas. I have been anxious to learn the Bo for a while now & I would think KFH, you would actually want to learn more than just to "spin it in an intimidating way"... *1st Dan Oct 2004*"Progress lies not enhancing what is, but in advancing toward what will be.""It is better to deserve honors and not have them than to have them and not deserve them."
monkeygirl Posted December 26, 2003 Posted December 26, 2003 It's fun to learn how to spin it around all fancy-like and it looks good for competition, but you need to learn the realistic applications, too. I wish my dojo had focused on that aspect of the bo. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of fun doing the katas, and it isn't too difficult to pick out the more realistic techniques from those katas. However, the bo staff is a great self-defense weapon: if you should happen to pick up an object during a self-defense situation, bo staff and escrima training will be of the most help to you, considering what objects would be available. Sticks, pipes, bottles, any long thin objects. My point is: if you're going to have the weapon in your hand, you might as well learn its practical applications, they could save your life. In response to your question: I honestly don't know of a single good website that teaches martial arts techniques of any kind (barring a few gymanstics sites, but those aren't really MA). Then again, I haven't done much looking. 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
battousai16 Posted December 26, 2003 Posted December 26, 2003 all that said, spins aren't a complete waste of time; they help with control over the staff and get you a bit more comfortable in the beginning. though i've never bothered to learn that helicoptor spin thing, i can't see that as anything other than flat out worthless. "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Shorinryu Sensei Posted December 26, 2003 Posted December 26, 2003 It's fun to learn how to spin it around all fancy-like and it looks good for competition, but you need to learn the realistic applications, too. I agree that he needs to learn the bo art correctly, not just fancy junk..but I disagree with the "for competition" comment. I judge weapons at open tournaments, and have since 1980. When a competitor approaches the judges to announce what he/she is going to do with a bo, the first thing I do is ask to see his/her bo. If it is a light weight, broom stick bo, the most the person will get out of me is an 8 out of a possible 10 points, because the weapon he/she is using isn't a realistic bo, but rather an imitation bo that will be easier to manipulate because of it's light weight. Secondly, fancy, flashy and ineffective techniques will be marked lower, as they aren't legitimate and effective. I'm a traditionalist and expect to see good, solid and realistic technique. Bad technique gets bad scores IMHO. I could tell you some really good storys about blackbelts with lousy weapons technique at tournaments. Chinese staff usage is different, and I recognise this. They have a long staff (about 10" long I think) and it is different than an Okinawan/Japanese bo. Because of that, I use different criteria. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
monkeygirl Posted December 26, 2003 Posted December 26, 2003 Well, it's good to know that not all judges are easily wooed by flash, SS. When I said "looks good in competition" I meant to suggest that competition is the only place where you could use it, since a significant number of tournaments are still about flash and fancy spins, regardless of your obvious traditionalist integrity. Battousai, you bring up an interesting point! If you CAN do those fancy flips and spins, you can do pretty much anything. You become familiar with the weapon and how it moves by making it do extreme and difficult movements. And of course, they're pretty intimidating, in a Dueling Banjos sort of way. 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
Drunken Monkey Posted December 27, 2003 Posted December 27, 2003 and the chinese thing is heavy... we also use it for strength training, basically as a leverage bar. have you ever tried doing one arm lifts from one end of them? anyway, i'm straying.... sorry. y'know, i've never actually seen how japanese styles use a staff. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
monkeygirl Posted December 27, 2003 Posted December 27, 2003 Don't they use a jo staff (much shorter than a bo staff but longer and thicker than escrima), or does somebody else use that? 1st dan & Asst. Instructor TKD 2000-2003No matter the tune...if you can rock it, rock it hard.
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