jeffrogers Posted January 7, 2004 Posted January 7, 2004 Depends there are good instructers and not so good. So you can do the most complete, most techniqcally sound art (yeah if there is one) But instructor 1 may not know how to teach so he may be good but his students suck! or two. He isn't doesn't know who to teach or does but his own level is very limited so your stuck with a limited knowlege base. No art! Covers every scenerio every angle every aspect. You train and hope for hte best but reality comes. We all want to think we have control over that sort of stuff. But when there is your family around friends, guns, knefes, base ball bats, mutltimple attackers. Odds are very much against you. Not saying it isn't worth practing but. Again you practice because you enjoy the art or the concepts and technques your learning from what ever instructers you decide to learn from. maybe I am misunderstanding you by complete or as far as perfect art there is no perfect art. But then again you still got to know people study martial arts for diffrent reasons. Biggest one is confidence. either confidence to get in better shape and and Martiaili arts is a diffrent way to excercise. or confidence in learning to protect them selves. or what not. some like the mystic and spirtual side of martial arts. For example how effective is japense sword art in your daily life. Your not going to be carrying a sword with you most of the time. Granted there are concepts it can teach you but still is it complete art. sure for that person who enjoys it. They are content there for its complete to them. If complete for fighting well thats a diffrent story "THEN" what you talk about needs to be in that art. Also with good quality instruction and theory in each catogory so far I haven't found instructor or style that teaches all those apects with profiency in each catogorey. Just my 0.2 cents. -Jeff
Drunken Monkey Posted January 7, 2004 Posted January 7, 2004 that's why i suggested using the word 'comprehensive' as opposed to 'complete'. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
Treebranch Posted January 10, 2004 Posted January 10, 2004 So some are more complete than others. That's all I was saying. That's not a matter of taste, it's a matter of fact. One shoe doesn't make a pair. It's not complete. Hmm. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
Sasori_Te Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 Well treebranch, like I was saying, the terms "complete" and "comprehensive" where martial arts are concerned have different meanings to different people. That also is a matter of fact. A block is a strike is a lock is a throw.
jeffrogers Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 Well going back to the guy who wrote the orginal question. yes there are styles that do Show a complete art? Self defense aspects meaning the four ranges, pressupre points, internal energy work, morality of karate, weapons both anicent and modern defense against modern ones. But how well they teach each catagory and aspect is very debateable.
Drunken Monkey Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 two shoes that are not the same also do not make a pair. then's the question of what you want the shoes for. walking? running? wading in lakes? like i say. you can't really have a 'complete' collection of shoes (ask my girlfriend...) but you can try to have a 'comprehensive' collection. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
jeffrogers Posted January 12, 2004 Posted January 12, 2004 true I the point is there are arts that teach alot of good stuff. But no art teaches every thing. Best to keep in open mind check stuff out for your selves. -Jeff
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