Drunken Monkey Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 well, savate guys wear some kinda foot wear don't they? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoom421 Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Kicking with the toe requires tremendous accuracy, usually aimed at the the softer spots such as the temple or eye. I prefer just whacking the person with my instep! Kyle Funakoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Kicking with the toe requires tremendous accuracy, usually aimed at the the softer spots such as the temple or eye. I prefer just whacking the person with my instep! Kyle Funakoshi The temple or the eye? Obviously, you aren't using the groin or knees as a potential target if you consider those as "toe targets"! Generally, targets considered suitable for the toe are below the sternum, the sides of the torso below the ribs, plus specific nerve targets of the leg between the knee and the groin. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uechi Kid Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Toe kicks are mostly used for pressure points bellow the waste. If you want to kick someone in the head you need to bring them to thier knees frist. More Practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue26 Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 i saw a weird kick in an old book karate book, a round house kick using the toe. (i find it very weird, cause it'll injury his own toe too) I believe many of the older Okinawan systems (we do) use the toes for kicking soft targets like the stomach and inside of the thigh. It allows much more penetration than the standard "ball of the foot" method. It can be used like a regular front snap kick or a roundhouse, but in the case of the roundhouse, the foot is positioned differently. We use the toe too, for a simple example I’ll use the front kick-we have a front instep kick and a front ball kick. The instep kick using the toe and it is most often used in a kick to the groin. "Follow not in the footsteps of the masters, but rather seek what they sought." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommarker Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 In Nagamine's "Tales of Great Okinawan Masters" he credits a special toe kick (tsumasaki-geri) to Arakaki Ankichi. (chapter 10.) In the picture, the kick is performed with the second toe crossed on top of the big toe. I would imagine you press the toes hard against each other to keep them from collapsing. I'm no longer posting here. Adios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 (edited) In Nagamine's "Tales of Great Okinawan Masters" he credits a special toe kick (tsumasaki-geri) to Arakaki Ankichi. (chapter 10.) In the picture, the kick is performed with the second toe crossed on top of the big toe. I would imagine you press the toes hard against each other to keep them from collapsing. I've heard of that toe-crossing before, but that's not the way that we do it..or not that I know of anyway. We use the big (great) toe only, however I know it is also in our system (I'm not quite this hardcore though) where you curl all the toes under and kick with them. A wee bit to hardcore for this guy. Actually, now that I tink of it...WAY back in 1978 in Havre, Montana, Master Yuichi Kuda was visiting us from Okinawa and he walked up to the 1/2 plywood we had on the walls and kicked it with his toes, leaving 3 tiny little indentations from his big toe and the next two. My jaw hit the floor with that one! Edited December 17, 2003 by Shorinryu Sensei My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommarker Posted December 17, 2003 Share Posted December 17, 2003 Ow... Sang H Kim (you see him in a lot of Turtle Press publications) appears to strike the roundhouse kick with his toes. I could be wrong. But what I'm not wrong about is that on his kicking video, his toes look like crumpled little stumps. They might hurt to get kicked by, but they are still crumpled little stumps I experimented with this kick in class one night, and found a lot of students couldn't make their toes even cross in the manner shown. I'm no longer posting here. Adios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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