Treebranch Posted January 16, 2004 Author Posted January 16, 2004 Yes. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
bigpopparob2000 Posted January 16, 2004 Posted January 16, 2004 Most of those things would be effective for self defense, although it might be seen as "fighting dirty." Maybe I'm just too much of a green horn, but I don't see how spitting at the attacker or speaking profanely at him would do much more than make him madder and harder to calm down. If your going to talk to him, you should probably say something in regard of finding a peaceful solution, not aggravating the attacker further.
Treebranch Posted January 16, 2004 Author Posted January 16, 2004 Everything can be a weapon. Insults can unbalance a person mentally, thus causing them to make rash attacks. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
SevenStar Posted January 17, 2004 Posted January 17, 2004 that's not really a mid-fight tactic though....pre-fight, sure. But, ideally you don't want to provoke him into striking, you want to diffuse the situation - unless you think that the crap will hit the fan regardless of what you do.
jeffrogers Posted January 17, 2004 Posted January 17, 2004 Actually some pressure points around the face and neck area you can use in grappling. But sevenstar is right they aren't going to be fight finsishers. Just something to to get his thinking going bascially annoying as hell. Kind of used as a set up for more effective move. Same reason we throw on chokes to distract and set up arm bars from the mount postion in BJJ. Least thats my theory. But I also agree in general with Sevenstars post. You don't need a lot of techniques. Why practice alot of * and be only medicore in a few technqieus yet practice a few techniques and get good at them. I seen this alot wre people practice alot of *. But there skills are only mediocre. Both Sevenstar and me know for example I will use grappling of people wfho put us in armbars we can see them coming way before they even get to the side of are bodys to do the arm bar for example they have mount. You would think we can counter in time. But they practiced these technqiues over and over with a resiting partner and figured at the small details and how to make it WORK so you see it coming you try to stop it to know success becasue they counter your stuff and you end up armbarred. Same idea for some one practing few techniques. LIke Mauy thai guy said. They worked there moves and the details and stratgeys on sets ups, using feints, and combinations, foot work and body movement, cutting down on there telegraphed movement and learning to use there body more to generate more power plus learning to be relaxed and be faster. They only focus on few moves were they can place them on the body and cause damage. but those practice a lot of tehcnaqiues aren't very effective. Maybe some years down the road. But most of the time only the simple moves they learned are going to be the most effective for them. But they wasted all that time on doing multiple tehcnqiues and such that they can do only those simple moves at medium skill at best. -Jeff
Treebranch Posted January 19, 2004 Author Posted January 19, 2004 It's like chopping a tree down. You hack at it a certain way and it will fall. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
jeffrogers Posted January 20, 2004 Posted January 20, 2004 Treebranch what was that post about? -Jeff
Treebranch Posted January 20, 2004 Author Posted January 20, 2004 Read the thread it's about techniques not allowed in competition. I say all techniques whether dirty or brutal are necessary in a real situation. Each situation is unique of course, but that's another topic altogether. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
jeffrogers Posted January 21, 2004 Posted January 21, 2004 No I was talking about you mentioning the chopping of the tree. If that was related to some one elses post? thats what I was asking. -Jeff
Treebranch Posted January 21, 2004 Author Posted January 21, 2004 (edited) What ever it takes to off balance your attacker is what I mean. Whether it is getting into his head and off balancing them there or physically. Sometimes doing dirty techniques freaks people out and they either get angry (off balance) or scared (off balance). Techniques and even words can have an advantageous effect in a fight if you know how this works. It's liking chopping down a tree with precise cuts in the right place. It's an analogy. Edited January 21, 2004 by Treebranch "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
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