Drunken Monkey Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 if you have no idea then why did you make a comment about it? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBN Doug Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 1ONEfighting, True. But to hear some of the people talk in a few of these forums, they prefer to call what they do MMA, instead of cross-training. So, I was just adjusting how I interpret the acronym to allow them that courtesy. Perhaps a poll, to determine how many call what they do cross-training vs. MMA. Either way, I think we're on the same page, just using different font. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 oooh, that's a good point.... mma cross-training i think i would have to say that i 'cross-train' (seeing as i do things not normally associated with wing chun training) post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ONEfighting Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 I crosstrain...for MMA. Trainwreck Tiemeyerwishes he was R. Lee Ermey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 1OneFighting posted this: "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt, 1910 Exactly my point, thanks. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treebranch Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 Stold said: In the first UFC there were no rules, you were just fined a certain amount of money for certain attacks. And...Well...All the kung fu guys still got beaten up. So those Kung Fu guys represent the whole world and every Kung Fu system in the world? Silly. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stold Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 I didn't say it accounted for every practitioner on the planet, but doesn't it seem convenient that every decent kung fu practitioner on the planet has nothing to prove? The only kung fu person I've seen kick butt is Asia from the b*llshido forums....Good ole 250 lbs of solid muscle tree stump legs asia. As others have said before, "He could make the macarena work in a fight." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 KSN, pre-UFC, there was no MMA. We all just called it crosstraining. MMA is a marketing ploy. you are both correct, but 1ONE is slightly more correct.... The term MMA came about as a result of the UFC. If you notice, it was NEVER called MMA before that. My guess is mixed martial arts sounded less barbaric than ultimate fighting championships - hence, it was indeed a marketing ploy. Since then, however MMA has been the term used to describe people who cross train, which turned MMA into a format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenStar Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Stold said: In the first UFC there were no rules, you were just fined a certain amount of money for certain attacks. And...Well...All the kung fu guys still got beaten up. So those Kung Fu guys represent the whole world and every Kung Fu system in the world? Silly. Nah, that's not what he's saying. He's saying that TMA guys entered...and got beat. Also, have you noticed that whenever a TMA guy gets beat, the first thing you hear is "well, he wasn't a good exponent anyway..."? Also, as stold mentioned, TMA guys tend to say they have nothing to prove. That's fine nd good. But, if they're not gonna put up, then they should shut up. I personally don't care that a person says "I would just use technique X" if they're not gonna step up and prove it. That goes for any style. usually though, it's the mma guys who are more than happy to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC-Strayder Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Sevenstar wrote: "That goes for any style. usually though, it's the mma guys who are more than happy to back it up." Where do this MMA guys back this up? And why is it so that everyone has to prove him self in a competition? Where does this comes from? Can't just everyone get there training in peace and train whatever they want too train? If someone want's to fight for a lump sum of money and fame, fine with me, but I'm starting to get really sick every time I'M reading something and they backs it up with, "in UFC they do this and this and this and they all got beaten....! , coz it means nothing when your a** in on the line in a self defence situation, like I'm training for. The mugger/rapeist/bully ain't paid like the guys in this games, he maybe likes to beat people up and you might wake up in a hospial if you don't do all you can to prevent him from doing it. It is not often I take time to discuss anything on this board coz all I see here is a bunch of keyboard warriors who thinks UFC is the ultimate thing, (and it is for the Gracies, there loaded with cash, cash from you guys), in fighting, but the truth is diffrent, sorry. If the first lesson was a failure, then you know that skydiving isn't for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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