much damage - not much time

[TJS]

Just curious. Is that basically the philosophy behind Krav Maga, or does it concentrate on defeating the attacker as quick as possible? Does it concentrate on vital areas as key points of attack or is it just to beat the crap out of someone with as many hits as you can get in?

 

The principal is to adress the imidiate danger as quickly as possible and use a simultanious or near simultaions counterattack.

 

A very Basic example of this would be a two handed choke from the front.

 

You use a pluck to remove the hands while simultaiously throwing a front groin kick.

[JerryLove]

Yes KM emphasizes Attacking the attacker as quickly as possible and not stopping until they are no longer a threat.

 

Which fits with what I have seen of it; hence my criticism. Small, fragile people don't tend to do well with an art the focuses on hitting very hard and many time... they tend to do well in arts that are positional or techincal. This is because their ability to inflict power is inherently limited by their strength, mass, and fragility. This is also the appeal of pressure point arts, but in my experience they cannot be effectively implamented under fighting situations.

 

A 90 pound 70-year-old lady has to defend herself against a 160lb 40-year-old man... would you think she would do better with a jujitsu or boxing? Why?

[TJS]

I see your point but larger more athletic people are going to be more effective no matter what the stlye. In my personal opinion it dosent matter if you weigh 90 or 190 pounds, an elbow to the face and kick/knee to the groin are atleast going to stun most people and allow time for escape.

 

Im not against jiu jitsu, I think it's a great art and good for small people. Even in jiu jitsu it is going to be easier for a larger stronger person to execute many of the techniques. It seem to me though you are going to a bit of an extreme since the general population wanating to learn self defense are not frail and fragile old women, although like I said I have worked with many elderly people and most have little problems, especially with the self defense techniques. KM was designed for the general population and I beilive it suites it nicely.

[JerryLove]

I was not cirtiquing KM as a general SD art. I'm still addressing your comment that it is designed for all people of all sizes and ages.

 

OTOH, I'm probably moving pretty heavily off topic. I've stated my opinion, and you yours; and I don't consider this an important enough point to argue on this thread.

[Icetuete]

So someone wanting to learn How to fight in a short period of time should look tword presessure points? sounds like you may have read the topic wrong..

 

actually i think you read it wrong, TJS. the question was not how to learn to fight in a short time, but how to inflict as much damage as possible in a short time.

 

i think pressure points the way to go, though it takes long to learn how to hit them properly and stuff. and i dont know in what arts/system pressure points are an emphasis.

 

in my TKD class we more often focus on the obvious targets like eyes, groin and throat.

[three60roundhouse]

Pressure points? Takes a while to be able to use them. Anyone can memorize where they are in about a day, but most people on the street aren't gonna stand still or in the right position for you to whack 'em.

[martialartsresearcher]

shorin-ryu karate. thats my 2 cents. otherwise, try wing chun kung fu.