TheDevilAside Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Thnks for that I think Vito but tell me, if a man makes a statement in a forest and there is no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong???lol.. That's a good one, I need to remember that. Anyway.. I don't have a problem with 'meditating' (in this context). But I don't consider it to be something such as... connecting with external (internal?) supernatural forces, or becoming 'one' with the universe. I see it more as a means of simply calming down and focusing. I know each of us have a different perception of what meditation really is or does, and I think depending on your religious beliefs (or lack thereof) it varies. That brings me to my next point... On a side note be careful and stand by your faith, there is some religion such as Buddhism and Shinto mixed in with martial arts but what I do is to find the Christian equivilient to it.Be very careful. Finding the Christian equivalent to things isn't always a good idea. Take Christmas, for instance: December 25 isn't Jesus Christ's birthdate. Long before Christianity even existed, it was a Northern Europe Pagan holiday known as Yule, which is dedicated to Winter Solstice or Saturnalia, the Roman worship of Saturn, the god of agriculture. It was also a holiday in Ancient Babylon which was called 'the Feast of Isis', the goddess of nature. In 350, a Pope Julius officially declared that Jesus Christ's birthday was to be celebrated on December 25, in order to allow of "easy conversion" of Roman Pagans. He kept all of the major traditions, such as the tree (pagan) the giving of gifts (pagan - although that worked out quite nicely, considering Christ also received gifts from the three wise men) and the mistletoe. Eventually, this caught on everywhere and after a few hundred years, people were no longer aware of its Pagan roots and believed everything, even the tree, to have Christian significance. Personally, that bothers me. Finding the Christian equivalent to things I don't believe is always a very smart thing to do, it confuses and distorts. And when it comes down to it, it's simply a compromise of your faith. Also, unfortunately just about every other Christian holiday has pagan roots, and the date and practices were also adapted by the Christian authority of the time (Catholics, mainly) in order to allow for easier conversion of the Romans, Druids, and so on. Easter (where'd the bunny rabbit come from?) St. John's day (originally the celebration of Summer Solstice) All Saints Day (And Halloween, was a Roman holiday first) The list goes on.. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June1 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 When is Christ's birthday, then? I heard it is supposed to be sometime in the spring. April? Kool Kiais: ICE! DIE! KITES! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH! KIAI!"Know Thyself""Circumstances make me who I am." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDevilAside Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Nobody knows. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparmaster Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 look im a christian. i practice internal arts. and if you think ki is against that religion then die right now! because you obtain some ki through breathing, eating, and some other sources. so get a clue before you think its bad srry i just wanted to blow of some steem. don't fear the journey ahead, never look back, never look down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku-Shimazu Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Christianity is incompatible. MA are based on Buddism and the Shinto faiths, because they are from Asia and that is what they had over there when they were created. (Not all MA are based on these, only the older ones from Japan and China, etc.) (Please do not begin to argue with me if you do not agree, I'm tired.) The cool summer breeze passes me by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM618 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Christianity is incompatible. MA are based on Buddism and the Shinto faiths, because they are from Asia and that is what they had over there when they were created. (Not all MA are based on these, only the older ones from Japan and China, etc.) That is a blanket statement that is simply not true. Not all MAs are based on religion. BTW, what were the crusades based on? Believe in God, or be slaughtered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku-Shimazu Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 JEM618, Sorry if I offended anyone, i'm tired. But JEM618, Check your inbox. The cool summer breeze passes me by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June1 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Not all MAs are based on religion. BTW, what were the crusades based on? Believe in God, or be slaughtered! What do the crusades have to do with MA? I'm sorry, maybe I missed something. Kool Kiais: ICE! DIE! KITES! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH! KIAI!"Know Thyself""Circumstances make me who I am." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muaythaiboxer Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 chi is just a natural force on your body and you can use it to help your martial arts but the whole flying, shooting fire balls ect is just plain fake, however there are some buddist monks in tibet and thailand who can do some pretty cool stuff with chi like control body temp. but chi will never be the decideing factor in a full contact fight or a marathon. Fist visible Strike invisible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzychicano Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 anyone that believes they can eventually shoot balls has got bigger problems than ki and christianity What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. - Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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