47MartialMan Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 But, given the literal translation of Ki in Aikido, could this be against Christian beliefs?
JEM618 Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 But, given the literal translation of Ki in Aikido, could this be against Christian beliefs? Hey, 47MM, remember that merry-go-round we were talking about yesterday? Still stuck on it, huh? Better get off it before you get sick. Yup, we were talking about literal translations less than 24 hours ago! Sigh... to think all those decades wasted! Actually you've probably already gotten all the answers you are looking for, you just forgot them... Have a nice day!
TheDevilAside Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 JEM, you know, you shouldn't take things so personally... and most of all, don't get frusturated so easily just because someone has an opposing opinion. Yeah, sometimes people are ignorant and stubborn (I'm not saying you are, 47MM ), but that's when you step out of the argument and simply say, "I'm done" without adding little sarcastic remarks. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill
47MartialMan Posted October 7, 2004 Posted October 7, 2004 JEM, you know, you shouldn't take things so personally... and most of all, don't get frusturated so easily just because someone has an opposing opinion. Yeah, sometimes people are ignorant and stubborn (I'm not saying you are, 47MM ), but that's when you step out of the argument and simply say, "I'm done" without adding little sarcastic remarks. Maybe not so ignorant and stubborn, but playing "devils advocate"?
The Hammer Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 I don't see Ki as having any relationship with any religion. Breathing doesn't have any relationship with religion, blood circulation either. Qi, Chi, Ki, or whatever you want to call it is part of our human existence and it was put there bt God. The Hammer
TheDevilAside Posted October 9, 2004 Posted October 9, 2004 Qi, Chi, Ki, or whatever you want to call it is part of our human existence and it was put there bt God.If you want to argue this from a Christian standpoint... everything was put here by God. Sin was put here by God. Does that justify its use? Nope. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill
foreveryoung001 Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Qi, Chi, Ki, or whatever you want to call it is part of our human existence and it was put there bt God.If you want to argue this from a Christian standpoint... everything was put here by God. Sin was put here by God. Does that justify its use? Nope. From another Christian perspective. The apostle Paul, in one of his letters (if its important to you I can look it up), was counseling a group of people who had "issues" with those who ate meat from the temples of false gods. Back then, it was common practice to sell the extra meat from the sacrifices in a butcher shop that was set up within these temples. A group of Christians in the early church had a real problem with that meat and had problems with anyone who ate that meat. The Apostle Paul told them, basically to chill out! Without having my bible in front of me, so I can't quote it word for word, he told them that "all things are permissable" as long as they do not replace God within your heart. He told them that if a Christian brother or sister chose to eat the meat, then rejoice with them beofore God that they have a good meal. If eating the meat in the presence of a Christian brother or sister was going to make that brother or sister stumble...or questian Christian values, then they should not eat it in front of them, and rejoice with the brother or sister for wanting to stay clean and pure before God. The important thing was that in everything, they were giving glory to God. I've mentioned it before but I'll say it once again, if Ki, Chi, or whatever else you might call it, is not replacing God in your heart, and because of it, you have an oportunity to witness Christ to someone, I don't see that as a conflict with the scriptures. Student: "Why did you hit that guy with a chair? Why didn't you use your karate?"Master: "Hitting him with a chair was the only karate I could think of at the time."Lesson: Practice until you don't have to think.
TheDevilAside Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Yes, this goes for almost everything. I wasn't arguing whether or not Ki/Chi should be practiced by Christians. I was making the point that simply because God put it there, doesn't mean you should use it. Like the apple tree in the story of Adam and Eve. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill
foreveryoung001 Posted October 11, 2004 Posted October 11, 2004 Yes, this goes for almost everything. I wasn't arguing whether or not Ki/Chi should be practiced by Christians. I was making the point that simply because God put it there, doesn't mean you should use it. Like the apple tree in the story of Adam and Eve. Okay, I think we're on the same page Student: "Why did you hit that guy with a chair? Why didn't you use your karate?"Master: "Hitting him with a chair was the only karate I could think of at the time."Lesson: Practice until you don't have to think.
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