Okinawan Warrior Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 Just because the name is a mixture of the two (chinese and japanese) doesnt mean it is crap. Okinawa is part of japan but preferes to trade with china rather than japan...... it is possible for a name to be a mixture of the two. David SteelShodanOkinawan GoJu Ryu Karate-DoSGKA - IOGKF - OTGKA" Never was a greater mistake made than he who did nothing because he could only do a little" - Edmund Burke
Drunken Monkey Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 because the languages don't mix like that. chinese wouldn't use the word 'do' at all because it has a different meaning in chinese (another form of religious worship/study, in case you were interested) japanese wouldn't be like that because in japanese, shaolin is read as 'shorin'. please note that i am not saying that it's all crap. just pointing out how the languages work. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
Okinawan Warrior Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 dialects change though, okinawa speak japanese but its different from that of the rest of japan so surely its possible that they could incorporate a word, doesnt kanji allways have two meanings for everything? David SteelShodanOkinawan GoJu Ryu Karate-DoSGKA - IOGKF - OTGKA" Never was a greater mistake made than he who did nothing because he could only do a little" - Edmund Burke
Drunken Monkey Posted December 5, 2003 Posted December 5, 2003 my point is, the characters for shaolin ONLY reads 'shaolin' in chinese. nothing to do with the meaning. in japanese and i'm sure in the okinawan dialect, it does not sound anything like 'shaolin'. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
1ONEfighting Posted December 6, 2003 Posted December 6, 2003 Kind of like saying...Brazilian JiuJitsu. Trainwreck Tiemeyerwishes he was R. Lee Ermey.
Drunken Monkey Posted December 6, 2003 Posted December 6, 2003 not the same. 'brazillian jiu-jitsu' is the combination of an english word and a romanised version of a japanese word (in other words, they are both english terms). shaolin-do is a combination of two romanised words from two diffrent languages (making a new 'name/term/word' in english). does that make sense cos it reads a bit confusingly. let's try again. either the name shaolin-do is a translated name, in which case it would be 'shaolin way'. as i have said, we don't use the word 'do' in chinese for anything to do with shaolin so it can't be a straight romanisation. it can't be a romanisation of japanese because the characters are read nothing like 'shaolin' (although they do actually mean the same thing) as we all know in japanese, the characters are read as 'shorin'. if it was translated from japanese it would be 'little forest/young forest/shaolin way'. if it was romanised it would be 'shorin do'. man i'm confused..... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
SevenStar Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 IMO, shaolin do/oom young doe/chung mu quan = fake. However, I know some people that train under mullins and love it. Qualty is in the eye of the beholder. Also, like anything else, the style is subject to fraud teachers. So, you may be able to find good shaolin do around somewhere, from what I'm told.
aznkarateboi Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 Before anyone uses the naem of Jeet Kune Do to defend Shaolin-Do, keep in mind that Do is also a cantonese word so if shaolin-do were cantonese it would be sil lum do, no?
Drunken Monkey Posted December 9, 2003 Posted December 9, 2003 like i said. the words shaolin and do (or more precisely tao as in taoist) would not be used together. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
tofu Posted December 14, 2003 Posted December 14, 2003 There are a couple Shaolin Do's here in Austin, Texas. I don't know very much about their curriculum, but it does not seem too much different from most of the other martial art schools here. I do like how they seem to do a lot of social things together; A few years ago a group went to train in China for a bit; they had a team participate in the dragon boat race here (and they won); they play "shaolin soccer" sometimes and I think monthly they do community service too. A name is just a name, but it may be good for marketing to the masses.
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