Top 5 Combative Arts

[cross]

Are we talking about Combat MA's? If we are I'd say Karate, Muy Thai don't really fit in here.

 

Karate was designed for self-preservation and sometimes that requires combat. Even though it was not designed for hand-to-hand combat in wars/battles it still teaches combat techniques.

 

Muay thai is definetly a combat art. It was designed by thai military especially for combat.

[judoka86]

A good martial art should be able to be taken from the dojo, and the artificial conditions that one trains in and stuck anywhere, and be preformed with cunning and percision. This can't be said definately, because the art isn't doing the fighting, the practitioner is. But enough of that.... I think that the most effective arts are Ninjitsu, Jujutsu, Combat Sambo(aka "systema"), Ba Gua Zhang, and Hapkido. These are well rounded arts.

 

Ninjitsu and Jujutsu were tested and proven effective on the battlefields of Japan. An effeicent Jujutsuka or Ninjutsuka are very pliable and adapt to conditions and surroundings easily.

 

Ninjutsukas are crafty and clever when using their surroundings... they throw things at you, dodge, weave and taunt their opponents. Then they strike with lethal percision and accuracy.

 

Jujutsukas are great one-on-one fighters... their skill with handling opponents on the ground and on their feet. Skilled Jujutsukas strike pressure points and joints to disable their opponents so they can get into an advantageous position.

 

Combat Sambo (systema) is very effective. It was created to train soldiers and special forces under modern battlefield conditions. It uses cunning to take advantage of momentum and inertia to beat your opponent.

 

Ba Gua Zhang is similiar to Aikido. Capable of handling multiple attackers with efficiency and percision. It's practitioners are pliable and creative. It is used in China for Police Training and works well if it's practitioners are present in quantities of 2 or 3. It uses the bodyguard system, where they watch each others back and protect each other.

 

Hapkido is a Korean Martial art that fuses traditional Korean foot and leg techniques, but with the grappling ability of Japanese arts. It represents Korea.. it is a mix of everything. A little bit has been borrowed from Chinese Kung Fu styles. A little from traditional Korean arts (Tae Kwon Do aka Tae Kyon, Soo Bahk Do, Tang Soo Do, Kuk Sool Won etc etc). Also since Japan dominated Korea from 1910--1945 the Japanese have had a say in the creation of modern Hapkido. Jujutsu and Karate have been key in the creation of this art. So, seeing as how Hapkido has so much in its makeup.. it is pliable and useable under extreme conditions. They can kick like a TKD'er, they can grapple and throw like a Jujutsuka, and they have the grace of the Chinese Kung Fu influence.

[judoka86]

The weapon should only be considered as an extension of the hand. If anyone has practiced Bojutsu then they would know. You shouldnt have to rely on a weapon, because if you are cocky and rely on a weapon, then chances are when your weapon is broken or taken from you, you may not work as efficently as you needed to to get that armed attacker away and disabled. Weapons are secondary porogative, and the empty hand and foot concept should be primary if you have to rise to the challenge of an armed attacker.

[Matgic]

My favorite to use in a combat situation would be

 

1) Knife

 

2) Gun

 

3) Not being there

 

4) Tactical Baton

 

5) Metal shin/forearm guards

 

[matt jiujitsufighter]

muay thai

 

bjj

 

jujutsu( tradittional, original, not diluted)

 

maphilindo silat

 

greco roman/olympic wrestling

 

in not particular order

[Treebranch]

The only Combat Art you mentioned is Silat and Jujutsu, Matt. The others are not Combat MA's.

[Venezolano]

Sure? and why not?

[matt jiujitsufighter]

AND WHY IS THAT MR.TREEBRANCH PLEASE EXPLAIN?

 

did bjj not evolve on the streets of brazil?

 

did the thais not fight with muay thai in ancient times?

 

YOU SIR HAVE BEEN EITHER MISINFORMED, AND/OR BRAINWASHED

[Treebranch]

Muay Thai was used as training for warriors back in the day, but it was coupled with sword training and the pike. So basically unless you are studying the traditional Muay Thai with weapons you are only studying part of it. So basically what you are claiming to be a Combat MA wa a Combat MA but is not one now. The streets of Brazil I imagine were and are brutal, but BJJ came from Jujitsu and is taught in the context of sport more so than the context of Combat. Also I have looked at the GJJ street defense book and by all realistic standards is lacking many important factors that essential for defense against an attacker. The most realistic book for street defense I've seen so far is a Krav Maga book. So basically it is not me who is brainwashed by any means. It's just fact that BJJ is not a Combat Art and Muay Thai used to be. Just like Judo is not a Combat MA's and came from a Combat MA's called Jujutsu. Once you really have the understanding of what MA's is really about you will see that there are a lot of viable MA's out there that are not being taught correctly. I don't blame you for being skeptical about TMA's after those bozo's got slaughtered in the early UFC's. But there were a few TMA practitioners that held their ground quite well. Besides in competition, you must be trained to compete and to win. Combat MA's are about survival. So if I saw that someone wants to do me harm and he looks like one of those steroid MMA's guys I'd either run, gut him with my knife or take my chances. All are possibilities and the outcome is unknown. So before you start saying I'm brainwashed putting a little thinking behind scenarios outside of NHB tournaments and remember you are not those fighters, you are you.

[Venezolano]

That's totally absurd.

 

So for you a "combat ma" is a combat that use weapons. wtf?

 

go and do morphosis and throw smoke bombs..