three60roundhouse Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Hey! I don't post in here often even though TKD is my main style, mainly because my school is very nontraditionalist and we don't focus at all on forms. I just got my first dan, and I know up to Hwa Rang (we do the ITF set), and just for fun with some friends I want to enter an open karate tournament in forms and sparring. Sparring I think I have a good chance in, but in a black belt division with somewhat elementary patterns I'm not sure. Which of the ITF patterns do you think judges would enjoy? What should I work in within the forms? THANKS! 1st dan Tae Kwon DoYellow Belt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu16 Years OldGirls kick butt!
tufrthanu Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 I think you should do a form that you are very familiar with rather than trying to learn a new one for a competition as a more basic form performed excellently will trump a higher form performed sloppily. However, that being said, judges also like flash. Unfortunately I am only familiar with a few of the Chang Hon forms however something like Chung Mu would show both basic techniques as well as more advanced stuff like the flying side kick. Long Live the Fighters!
three60roundhouse Posted November 5, 2003 Author Posted November 5, 2003 I am only learning Chung Moo....so I don't think it would be a good idea to do that one (maybe next time as it is a very powerful form). I was thinking of doing Toi Gwe or Hwa Rang...hm... 1st dan Tae Kwon DoYellow Belt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu16 Years OldGirls kick butt!
tufrthanu Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Toi Gye is not a form I am familiar with, however, Hwa Rang is a good form there are lots of different techniques rather than just the same few repeating. There isnt really anything too physically challenging about it but it does demonstrate lots of good strong moves and stances. If you know it very well do it otherwise Toi Gye may be better. My sensei says you need to do a form 500 times even to do it at an average level. so practice it often preferably in front of someone that can critique you. Long Live the Fighters!
The Saint Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 just do the form that you like to do, forms in my opinion are to get all the butterflies out so you can kick but in sparing. Practise the pattern that you like the best. Good luck "Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to go to his class." Choi, Hong Hi ITF Founder
jakmak52 Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 All of the tournaments I've competed in, judges pretty much look for presentation, timing,power,intensity,low stances,angular techniques, and focus....I use a kata I am very familiar with and practice it over and over again..I don't pratice the day before the competition, it's like studying the night before a test (overdoing it), but that just works for me... Peace, Jack Best regards,Jack Makinson
John G Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 I agree with jakmak52, the judgers are after technique and timing. The most challenging colour belt pattern I found is Joong-Gun. Everyone hates to do this one as a compulsory pattern as it’s so hard to do technically correct. Respectfully, John G Jarrett III Dan, ITF Taekwon-Do
BayouGirl Posted January 19, 2004 Posted January 19, 2004 I am currently performing a weapons Kata utilizing the form of Chong Moo which I have had alot of on-lookers and numerous compliments by various Black Belt Judges. Course utilizing the Chong Moo form, I had to make up my own sword handling techniques to go along smoothly with this form and also add the flash that the judges always seem to like. Early errors i encountered was getting to close to the judges after my flying side kick and swinging a stainless steel Katana sword with a 29 1/2 inch blade will irk the judges really fast, So if you planning to use something like this make sure you do as I do now and that is to measure your distance when you start off using this form with weapons so as not to get to close to the judges after landing the flying side kick. My style of Karate is American Freestyle. BayouGirl
crash Posted January 19, 2004 Posted January 19, 2004 in most open tournaments,esp. in the b.b. divisions you will find that a lot of ppl create their own forms, that way you can add your own favorite techniques and movements. something that you will really stand out for. if you dont have time to create your own routine then try to stick with something you are very comfortable with, and if you do happen to make a mistake dont let it show,cover it up smoothly and continue on, theres a good chance the judges dont know your systems forms and wont even catch a small error.
Akima Posted January 31, 2004 Posted January 31, 2004 Choong Mu. As a judge, I would expect to see at least that from a 1st dan. Remeber, they will only see the belt, not how long you have had it. If you must, do hwa rang, but work it hard, many hours to perfect it. pick a form, and perfect it, even "spice" it up with added flash. If you find you really like forms competition, check out some TSD forms. The techniques are very similar. Pick a form that makes you feel something, not one that is just on your test list. Pick something that fits you physically and mentally. Or do what crash says...make one up. Good luck and congrats on your dan.
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