Ronin-Master Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 I was wondering if anyone here has any info on the Shito-ryu or Shukokai version of Seisan.
Lord Apocalypse Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 Ah interesting, i do those styles, actually didn't know we did that kata. But i haven't learned it yet, last kata i learned was seienchin at brown belt level. Though i'm gonna have a dip into kushanku. Mijukumono ga! Warawaseru na!
fireka Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 really? you havent done that one yet? strange, in Isshinryu its the first kata we learn. yea i can't wait to get to kusanku, i want to specialize in that one, its so fluid looking. im guessing though the isshinryu version is somewhat diffrent for seisan because everything for us is a verticle fist. "i could dance like that!.......if i felt like it...." -Master Betty
Lord Apocalypse Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 We start by going through the pinan's, then bassai dai then seienchin, but i also know matsukaze and naihanchi(fav kata) Mijukumono ga! Warawaseru na!
stl_karateka Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 really? you havent done that one yet? strange, in Isshinryu its the first kata we learn. Fireka - Remember that every kata we do in IsshinRyu is an advanced kata (usually black or brown) in another style. Except Sunsu which is the only pure I-Ryu kata and hybrid of the others. Seisan is a black belt kata in Shotokan and Kobiyashi (sp?) Seiunchin is brown belt in GojuRyu Nahanchi is brown belt in ShorinRyu Wansu (called Wanshu) is learned as Shodan in ShorinRyu Chinto is learned as Nidan in ShorinRyu Sanchin --- dunno where that is learned in GojuRyu but I'm sure its one of the latter katas cause it is supposed to be the essence of karate Kusanku - is the last kata you learn in ShorinRyu - it is said it takes 10 years to fully master and appreciate. Kita KarateForums.com Sempai
telsun Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 Seisan - Nidan in Goju Sanchin - varies, but should be taught from day 1, as it is the "essence" of the Goju style. I keep asking God what I'm for and he tells me........."gee I'm not sure!"
tenkamusou Posted November 2, 2003 Posted November 2, 2003 I do Shito ryu, and seisan is my competition kata.. any question, just ask.. and by the way... Shotokan doesnt have Seisan, they have Seishan wich is the same as hangetsu. SO, goju has seisan, and Shoto has Seishan... If you could improve yourself in only three or two months, everybody would be invencible...
Ronin-Master Posted November 3, 2003 Author Posted November 3, 2003 I dont think Sanchin should be taught rite away because if it is practiced incorrectly than it is very dangerous. Some Okinawan stlyes banned it because of this.
telsun Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 I dont think Sanchin should be taught rite away because if it is practiced incorrectly than it is very dangerous. Some Okinawan stlyes banned it because of this.I don't understand this comment. You are only likely to practice it wrong if you are taught it wrong. Why should you wait until you are an advanced grade to start? I am aware that performed incorrectly it is harmful, however, it has been modified over the years to make it more "user-friendly" for want of a better term. Atleast it has been with the association I am with. I keep asking God what I'm for and he tells me........."gee I'm not sure!"
telsun Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 I was wondering if anyone here has any info on the Shito-ryu or Shukokai version of Seisan.What kind of "info" do you require? Would you like to tell us a bit about yourself in the introductions forum. I see you're a full time instructor, but where are you? I keep asking God what I'm for and he tells me........."gee I'm not sure!"
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