effective ma for sd

[mmafighter34]

HI,I'm new and ive studied martial arts for awhile. i'm preparing to return to my training after a 3 yr break, but i'm loking for the best style for me. I KNOW I WANT SOMETHING EFFECTIVE IN SELF DEFENSE GETS ME IN GREAT SHAPE AND THE BASICS ARE EASY TO LEARN.The most important thing is that it is effective in self defense.Now ive ben doing reasearch on styles for sd on MA sites/forums. I notice that people argue that some arts are not effective. I think when people think of effective they start to think of MA MOVIES EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW THERE NOT REAL. Martial arts was not meant for you to beable to beat the hell out of 7 guys more athlectic then u tko on them with no effort then moon walk out of the room. Now an effective martial art is an art that the basics are easy to learn,can be affective with the least amount of athecticism(strenght,speed,agility,quickness),and the common person can use. I think people go towards japnese/chinese arts like okinawankarate/shaolinkungfu because it is more suited for common non-athlectic people and is still very effective,rather koreas tkd or thailands MT because which is more for athlethes. Now the more athlecticism you have the more arts are suited for you. I have mediocre athlecicism so I am now in a process of choosing between shaolin kungfu ,kravmaga muay thai(I HAVE ENOUGH ATHLECTICISM TO PULL THIS OFF I THINK)and some forms of karate if i could find a style of karate that involved joint locks and throws in its basic curriculum. I am seriously considering cross training. Styles become more effective when you cross train them.

 

EXAMPLE(TKD=OK/ TKD + JUDO= PRETTY EFFECTIVE TKD+HAPKIDO=VERY EFFECTIVE /TKD+HPK+WESTERN BOXING=HIGHLY EFFECTIVE/ TKD+HPK+ JKD=SUPER EFFECTIVE). This could become confusing as far as fighting applications to the diffrent styles for beginners but luckily I'm not new to the MA world and I HAVE OVER 300 MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOLS AT MY DIS POSAL BECAUSE I LIVE IN A HUGE CITYOF CHICAGO. Tell me your opinion oh yeh great forums very in formative. jeet kune do is an option as well for me. ive studied tae kwondo and aikido and kenpo karate in the past.

 

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[martialartsresearcher]

I would say krav maga & BJJ would be great to.

[delta1]

"SOMETHING EFFECTIVE IN SELF DEFENSE GETS ME IN GREAT SHAPE AND THE BASICS ARE EASY TO LEARN. The most important thing is that it is effective in self defense."

 

Getting you in shapedepends more on the school than the style. But generally the grappling arts will get you in the best all around shape. Most are good for self defense as well.

"Now an effective martial art is an art that the basics are easy to learn,can be affective with the least amount of athecticism(strenght,speed,agility,quickness),and the common person can use."

 

Easy is a pretty subjective term. But if you mean quick to learn and good retention in a crisis, go with one of the para military styles like American Combato, Krav Maga (if you can find good KM), or the WWII fighting systems (hard to beat in this category).

"I am seriously considering cross training."

 

There are some really good hybrid systems out there nowdays. I'd look for one of them. Advantages: the styles are compatable, lots of people on the same program to work with, you can spar useing all your combined skills, and you don't have to do the additional work of blending multiple systems. Look for a system that includes stand up fighting at ALL ranges (especially in close), joint locks and throws, ground fighting, and practical weapons.

[Hybrid]

That post was rather annoying to read. Anyway...

 

Since you're considering cross-training, one of these...

 

Muay Thai

 

Krav Maga

 

Jeet Kune Do

 

Kyokushinkai Karate

 

Kenpo Karate

 

Kick Boxing

 

Boxing

 

with...

 

BJJ

 

[Treebranch]

I don't think getting in shape by doing MA's is really the goal of MA's. Staying in shape should be done outside the Dojo. If you're too busy doing workouts in class when do you learn the techniques. I would check out what MA truely interests you and study it. Run everyday, work out, eat right, and train. I wouldn't look to a dojo for getting in shape. Yes, certain MA's are a hell of a work out. If I were you I'd concentrate on which MA intrigues you the most and study it.

[hajime]

Surely any martial art teaches self defense, otherwise it's missing the point.

 

As for not getting you fit. Ahem. Anyone who finds sparring, katas perfomed with power, use of bags, practising all moves etc not tiring is clearly superfit already

[Treebranch]

Well it depends what you study and after awhile you kind of get used to it. Even Boxers workout with weights, jump rope, and run for conditioning. I'm only making the point that learning to fight doesn't always equal getting into shape.

[KoreanTiger30]

I would say Krav Maga or Hapkido I know form expereince Hapkido is highly effective. I have encountered a couple occasions where self defense was necessary and I was able to defend against 3 attackers.. so Hapkido saved my butt

[Treebranch]

That's awesome KoreanTiger30. I always like to hear when MA's come in handy in a real situation.

[aefibird]

Like you said, mmafighter, you're interested in cross-training, so whay not go for that?

 

BJJ, karare, kenpo, krav maga, JKD, wing chun, jyu-jitsu, judo, muay thai - try mixing up those. You've had MA experience, so you know what its like to train, so go along to a few of the clubs in your area (you're pretty lucky, BTW to have a lot of martial arts clubs in your area! I wish there were plenty near me...)and check them out. Sort the good from the bad and give the good ones a try!

 

On the matter of fitness, I'd try and have a fitness program outside of your MA training - techniques can't really be learned effectively if you spent a lot of the lesson doing fitness stuff. However, lots of MA training will help to get you fit anyway!