wet floor

[fireka]

i work in a Taco Bell and theres this guy who thinks he's 'gangster'. His always trying to start something with everyone. I have been able to avoid it so far but if i had to defend myself or someone else (i think he's all talk, but just in case) how could i maintain balance on the wet floor?

[monkeygirl]

Don't kick. The only way you'll really lose your balance on a wet floor is to pick your feet up to kick or start running. Knee strikes would work because you'd be holding on to him, but palm strikes, wrist locks, etc. would be preferable.

 

But then again, it probably won't come to that, hopefully.

[battousai16]

i don't think it would really be a problem, fireka. as an experienced martial artist, you should have a much easier time keeping balance than the "gangsta" you think is all talk if he starts a fight, just deny him service. sooner or later the hankerin' for a taco will become unbearable, and he'll apologize.

[Treebranch]

Train on a wet floor or ice, you will learn a great deal. You will see right away what is going to work.

[hajime]

dry the floor first.

 

sure a martial artist should have good balance but fighting on a wet slipperly floor sounds stupid!

 

unless of course he's up close to you then there's so many nasty things you can do to the

 

:eyes, nose, mouth, throat, groin, shin, foot etc

 

without beginning on the locks and throws

[Treebranch]

Well he's asking for advice and he already studies MA's and I'm sure it's on a dry floor. So practicing on a wet floor can be very helpful. If the effectiveness of a MA is going to be cancelled out by a change in environment, then it's probably a MA that isn't designed for reality. So if you are studying something that doing it on a wet floor will bring you more harm than your attacker, what good is it? So in order to see if what you are learning is truely effective, practice on different surfaces and environments. You could learn a lot.

[fireka]

will, no matter what style you study, a wet floor will be harder than a dry one. Im not so much consierned about my offense, because i already know how to tear someone up the idea is to put him down gently, he might get in a lot of trouble, but even though were the same age this guy is just a kid in my eyes who dosent no any better and i dont want to hurt him. Im thinking defense. Blocks are still to masses coming togather in an enviroment with little to know stopping friction. Evasion requires one to slip and slide around, whose to say i could stop on that floor? but the good thing is i think my style, Isshinryu, would be solid on wet floors as opposed to other styles. its stance are stable and felxable towards strange enviroments. only one thats probably better is Ninjitsu, since they actually teach you what to do in all sorts of crazy enviroments, i think if i have time, ill ask Sensai on thursday.

[SaiFightsMS]

First is the issue of how does the management view the situation. It is the duty of the manager or the assistant manager on duty to deal with the problem not someone who might be mopping the floor. As I see it taking what may be in the eyes of the company inappropriate actions could very like result in the loss of a job at the very least.

[fireka]

im going to be straight with you, like isaid he is probably all talk and im not asking out of detremental concern, if nothing else there are plenty of objects that can be used as weapons if he became life threatening, including a dispensor of 200 degree water. The management cant do anything unless he actually tries something around someone who gives a damn. Mostly, i posted this because the situation got me thinking, how handicapped would i be if i had to fight on a wet or otherwise slippery surface? it rained last night so i went out at 11:00 and tried seisan. I found the squating blocks proficent of the surface, even when i tested it at impact with an object. The hardest part was the manuvers that required me to slide across the floor, there was no stopping power. I think though if i lifted the cresent step a little off the ground and maintained mainly a low seisan stance i could be pretty affective.

[delta1]

Look at the SE Asian martial arts like Krabi Krabong, Viet Vo Tao, Silat, etc. They were develped to be used in wet, muddy, slippery environments (like jungles). Look at their stances and footwork, then see if there is anything similar in your style. What I've seen of them had a lot of twists and kneels. They tend to redirect and unballance the opponent.