cymry Posted October 24, 2003 Posted October 24, 2003 Cansomeone explain to me how this works, and how it could be applied to some commong grappling monoeuveres, such as double leg takedowns?
kle1n Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 u give the opponent something to hold like a arm and punch him in the face i guess. Be everything. Be nothing.
Karateka_latino Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 I saw a couple of pictures in a magazine, its like a mix of Wrestling (sprawls mostly) and obviously wing chun. Im not sure if that actually works against a skilled wrestler but i think it can work against an average person.
cymry Posted October 25, 2003 Author Posted October 25, 2003 I think there's something to do with applying force in certain directions. Like if he pushes, you move with him then apply force in a different way.
wcnavstar Posted October 25, 2003 Posted October 25, 2003 The question should not be wether or not an indavidual techniqie from a paticular style would work against a skilled wrestler. It all comes down to wether or not each practitioner is able to effectivley apply their techniques to any given situation. Therefore the outcome is decided not by the style; but, by the indavidual. And before anyone says it, I would have to disagree that wrestlers are on average more effective, or that any other style is better than another. For me it is simple as can you make what you know work for you. There are many people out there who cannot make wrestling, BBJ, or MMA work for them and there are many that can. The immidiate draw to these and many other commercialized systems is the promise of an easy way to learn to kick but. Other more traditional systems on average will take longer to become effective, yet the skills picked up there will be more lasting. I do apologize for veering way off topic. Very Respectfully wcnavstar "We work with being, but non-being is what we use" Tao Te Ching
Sho-ju Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 Learn how to wrestle...that is the only anit-grappling that works. Look at the top punch/kickers in the UFC and you'll find wrestling shoes hanging in there locker.
JerryLove Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 The question should not be wether or not an indavidual techniqie from a paticular style would work against a skilled wrestler. It all comes down to wether or not each practitioner is able to effectivley apply their techniques to any given situation. Both actually. Applying a poor technique is not useful, not is a good technique that you cannot apply. Therefore the outcome is decided not by the style; but, by the indavidual. A combination of PC mumbo-jumbo and wishful thinking I'm afraidThere are many people out there who cannot make wrestling, BBJ, or MMA work for them and there are many that can. The immidiate draw to these and many other commercialized systems is the promise of an easy way to learn to kick but. Other more traditional systems on average will take longer to become effective, yet the skills picked up there will be more lasting. As illustrated where? https://www.clearsilat.com
wcnavstar Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 I am sorry to report that the people you see on T.V. in the UFC and the like... do not represent the average martial arts practitioner. As for examples I was talking about, they are only people I have met in my path to martial excellence. However I am afraid their names you would not know seeing as they have not yet been commercialized. Nor do they want or need to prove themsevles. You are more than welcome to continue down your path of ignorance to the ultimate truth. Perhaps someday you will awaken. This does not suggest that you will choose traditional martial arts. For yourself, perhaps BBJ or kickboxing is more your thing, or whatever you deem to be effective. But try not to let what you see on T.V. blind you. Then again, as in many things, I can tell this is a topic to which we will never see eye to eye. Until we can meet face to face and really discuss this. Perhaps even that would be hopeless. Still... Thats my take on things... Very Respectfully wcnavstar "We work with being, but non-being is what we use" Tao Te Ching
JerryLove Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 I was talking about, they are only people I have met in my path to martial excellence. However I am afraid their names you would not know seeing as they have not yet been commercialized. Nor do they want or need to prove themsevles.Ahh yes, the vast hordes with "nothing to prove", dozens of arts with thousands of practitioners none of whom could be bothered to put their money where their mouth is; even though half these art's claim to fame is some distant guy who "went around defeating everyone" https://www.clearsilat.com
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