hajime Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 strictly not recommended in a street fight for obvious reasons! aside from hiraken to the throat shuto to the neck hammerfist to the bridge of the nose ok any kind of powerful blow to the throat/neck what are the quickest other ways to kill people with a single blow. Why I am asking? I am strictly a man of peace. I'm writing a story. Twice in unarmed combat the hero kills a man with a single blow. Each time hiraken to the throat. Just wondering if I was missing anything I hadn't heard of? 700 hours of official training. Injury finished me dammit!1st Kyu Wado Ryu
kempocos Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 I think you need to check your facts , those are not one blow/kill shots. "If you don't want to get hit while sparring , join the cardio class"
hajime Posted October 22, 2003 Author Posted October 22, 2003 Hi there I'm positive hiraken to the throat does kill. (it's gonna hurt bigtime m8) a knife strike to the neck would be potentially lethal. I'm happy to be 'proved' wrong if it's possible. Heck I'm not even a 1st Dan. whatdo I know 700 hours of official training. Injury finished me dammit!1st Kyu Wado Ryu
kempocos Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 During a struggle the neck tenses and the muscles do a good job of protecting it. The points that make these areas lethal need to be exposed so a one blow situation will not work. These points need to be hit at the right angle and in the proper direction. "If you don't want to get hit while sparring , join the cardio class"
hajime Posted October 22, 2003 Author Posted October 22, 2003 ok in the situation I'm imagining the attacker takes the victim by surprise and hits straight into the adam's apple from the front at maximum power/ speed/ correct angle etc I wasn't trying to suggest that any blow to any part of the neck was lethal 700 hours of official training. Injury finished me dammit!1st Kyu Wado Ryu
kempocos Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 still I don't think that will do it, due to head postion during attacks. If he use a forearm strike underthe chin pushing the head back 45 degress to setup a single knuckle /pheonix eye punch , this uses the second knukle of the middle finger to strike the neck about 1 to 1 1/2 inchs to the side of the adams apple there are two vital points ST9, LI18. These will ativate stomach / st and large intestine /li meridians and with the forearm strike can provide such a result. KYUSHO JUSTSU stuff "If you don't want to get hit while sparring , join the cardio class"
hajime Posted October 23, 2003 Author Posted October 23, 2003 thanks kempocos for your useful info one knuckle fist to that point sounds very nasty indeed. I'm not trying to be petty but consider this: how confident are you that for the sake of argument a 3rd Dan 16 stone man could not kill a skinny opponent with a hiraken strike to the throat delivered at maximum power and perfect aim? would you risk being the one hit yourself? 700 hours of official training. Injury finished me dammit!1st Kyu Wado Ryu
Treebranch Posted October 23, 2003 Posted October 23, 2003 Kempocos said: During a struggle the neck tenses and the muscles do a good job of protecting it. The points that make these areas lethal need to be exposed so a one blow situation will not work. These points need to be hit at the right angle and in the proper direction. Good point. So if someone knows what they are doing and they can strike you elsewhere to loosen the neck area up, the strike could be mortal. You know there are ways of doing that in a fight. It's not impossible. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
kempocos Posted October 24, 2003 Posted October 24, 2003 did you see my second post, I describe one way to do this. "If you don't want to get hit while sparring , join the cardio class"
hajime Posted October 24, 2003 Author Posted October 24, 2003 Yes Kempocos I saw your post if you mean me. Your subtle agreement with me was missed the first time. now I see it I'm getting old 700 hours of official training. Injury finished me dammit!1st Kyu Wado Ryu
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