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[SevenStar]

I know what a real strike does. You dont even have to hit with maximum power and it hurts like hell, and it can cause lethal damage. one hit in the head can kill a man.

to die from a strike to the head is unlikely. possible, but unlikely...

[y2_sub]

Nah, I read that you trained it. If you fight though, a mouth guard is required, so I just assumed you'd never been in a ring. same with kickboxing. Also, if it was on an amateur level, headgear is required too.

lol, what hissing thing?

it is required but i hate it , it always fall and they give me penalities for that , the hissing is the sound you do while hitting ( essa, sia , kia ) thats why the mouth guard falls , hehe , i won almost all my kickboxing rounds so i guess that's my answer of being in the ring

[y2_sub]

Some people say that one of the disadvanteges of kyokushin is the number of injuries among kyokushin students , well , that i agree with , i have been injured in lots of places and wheenever i have tournament or things like that , i get injured , but it's not that serious thow , sooner or latrer will recover , and it's good to know what a real strike can do to the human body

I know what a real strike does. You dont even have to hit with maximum power and it hurts like hell, and it can cause lethal damage. one hit in the head can kill a man.

You c , thats what am talking about , PPL say that a strike to the head can kill a man , so u just belive it , without ever traying it , but is that true ???? most of fighters fall after being hit with to the face , with leathal strikes like a roll kick or round kick or axe kick , what eva... do they really die ???naaaaaaaaaa ..

[kenttiensankari]

You c , thats what am talking about , PPL say that a strike to the head can kill a man , so u just belive it , without ever traying it , but is that true ???? most of fighters fall after being hit with to the face , with leathal strikes like a roll kick or round kick or axe kick , what eva... do they really die ???naaaaaaaaaa ..

So you suggest that I should kick somebody in the head and test does he die or life? I got a hit in my head, I had a helmet and opponent had a baggloves, he hit so hard that it almoust braked my chin, without gear I would have been knocked out totally, and I would had serious damage in my head.

In competition I saw that big guy knocked out his opponent and they also weared protective gears, without gears that guy who were knocked out would probably die.

[Dragn]

When I was doing TKD we did non contact sparring.

Back then I had all kinds of dellusions about how dangerous I was.

I remember getting into a fight at school, when I threw a roundhouse Kick into this kids face.Got him easily.Only problem was that I snapped my foot back as soon as it hit, just like I had practised over and over in the dojo.

The result: he laughed, grabbed me by the shirt and flung me round and to the ground.

Neither of us was hurt ,bar my ego,BUT I sure learned a lesson about the role of muscle memory.

Its been said already, you fight how you train.

Even those arts which are heavily focused on street SD need to include some form of full contact sparring in your training just to get used to the dynamic of real conflict and getting hit. Yeah you may have to restrict the use of so called leathal techniques, but the benifits far outweigh the drawbacks. Otherwise you run the risk of living in a fantasy.

Injuries are a downer though. I'm 34 and I spar full contact at least 3 days a week. I'm constantly injured and I do worry about the long term damage. I wont be able to keep up this kind of training into my 40's.

But after all we do practise MARTIAL arts don't we? How can we practise fighting without hurting each other occassionally?

I dont think thats realistically possible.

[y2_sub]

So you suggest that I should kick somebody in the head and test does he die or life? I got a hit in my head, I had a helmet and opponent had a baggloves, he hit so hard that it almoust braked my chin, without gear I would have been knocked out totally, and I would had serious damage in my head.

In competition I saw that big guy knocked out his opponent and they also weared protective gears, without gears that guy who were knocked out would probably die.

i am not suggesting that you should kick someone in the head just to test it , thats not what i said , i am saying that the only way to test your moves is by hard contact , without any protective gear , you say you got a hit to the head , i've got hits to the head more than i could count without any type of gear ( me or opponent), and i've been knocked down , i am still alive thow , and i have c'n big guys knocking other big guys with hard hits , have you ever heard that someone really died in a match , well if it happens it would be casual.. most of light contact or no contact guys don't even know the REAL power of their strike so they just assume that if you hit someone he'll fall , (like what Drag'n said in his post )

Sosai Oyama said once :Without practice one cannot prove; without proof one cannot be trusted; without trust one cannot be respected. the proof would be in a hard fight

[SevenStar]

Nah, I read that you trained it. If you fight though, a mouth guard is required, so I just assumed you'd never been in a ring. same with kickboxing. Also, if it was on an amateur level, headgear is required too.

lol, what hissing thing?

it is required but i hate it , it always fall and they give me penalities for that , the hissing is the sound you do while hitting ( essa, sia , kia ) thats why the mouth guard falls , hehe , i won almost all my kickboxing rounds so i guess that's my answer of being in the ring

just exhale. hissing, kiai, etc. is only exhaling... It's not hard to exhale while wearing one.

[SevenStar]

have you ever heard that someone really died in a match , well if it happens it would be casual..

actually, a woman died in a boxing match about a week and a half ago. Boxing is 8th on the list of sports fatalities. It's not common, but it does happen.

most of light contact or no contact guys don't even know the REAL power of their strike so they just assume that if you hit someone he'll fall , (like what Drag'n said in his post )

Sosai Oyama said once :Without practice one cannot prove; without proof one cannot be trusted; without trust one cannot be respected. the proof would be in a hard fight

agreed.