SaiFightsMS Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Why no contact for white & beginner yellow belts? If there's gonna be contact in later belts, you might as well start somewhere. I think that some level of contact (I'll not say what, people have their own opinions)is necessary when training, even if it can never be truly 'realistic', like in a street fight. At least with contact fighting you're more prepared for if you get into a street fight, because you know what it feels like to be hit. Dojo fighting can't ever be 100% like a street fight (maybe be 99.9% like one though!) but you just gotta hope that the training and practicing willl pay off and you'll have the advantage. How about mininal contact for lower belts sparring because they have not yet trained long enough to develope the conditioning it takes to safely accept more contact heavier contact sparring entails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superleeds Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Sparring with less experienced people teaches you how to take a punch when you don't guard yourself properly and take a nice one straight to your jaw I usually encourage people to attack my body at a good amount of force, i'm not too big on being hit in the face full force but i've copped it from a few people and nowadays i barely flinch unless it's someone really big and strong Read a book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotegashiNeo Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Contact is essential to getting hurt, no contact is essential to getting your butt kicked. Medium contact huh not sure what that means. Know only this best defense for punch or kick is mace right in the eyes ouch ! Kisshu fushin oni te hotoke kokoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich67 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 I think people who have never spared with any level of contact will likely curl up in fetal position and recieve a beating in a real fight You got that right. My Tang Soo Do school was full contact and light face contact. We sparred both with hand and foot pads and without. You gotta learn how to take a punch. I don't care how good you think you are, you're gonna get hit in a real fight. A lot of schools try to justify the no-contact sparring, but most are lame excuses. I only got injured twice while full contact sparring: a split lip that required stitches, and a torn ACL when a buddy kicked my thigh (this was a complete accident, and was not an intentional strike). The split lip I was back in the studio the next day. The ACL put me out of the loop for 8 months. But either way, I say any sparring w/o contact is a waste of time. Just run through some katas for the same effect. Mixed Martial Artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneTigerCrane Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 they can all be beneficial forms of sparing, and should all be practised. full, medium, or light.but the no contact thing is really strange to me.i went to a no contact soo bok competition a couple of times. they had three judges all trying to decide wether or not they thought the guy on the left WOULD HAVE hit the guy on the right so they could call a point. strange (just strange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted T. Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I just dropped into this discussion and way back on page one I read this:I think people who have never spared with any level of contact will likely curl up in fetal position and recieve a beating in a real fight.and I can't believe it!Since less than 1% of our North American population trains in a martial art, who the h+++ is winning all the brawls???And what about those untrained who whip the trained?? "WAKE ... UP, PAL! Avoiding the fight is a ... technique, and not just a self-defense technique, either. It is an absolutely essential survival technique."— Peyton QuinnOk, now maybe I'll go back and read some more... Ted TruscottThe Raising Canes Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traz Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 and I can't believe it!Since less than 1% of our North American population trains in a martial art, who the h+++ is winning all the brawls??? True, untrained people win brawls all the time, however, like you said, less than 1% train in martial arts. Thus, BOTH opponents are untrained, which is why untrained people win And what about those untrained who whip the trained?? This happens because of the very issue at hand...many "trained" people don't fight with reasonable contact. So in my mind, they're not very trained at all. That's why they lose.The mere concept of non-contact sparring is a joke in my mind. I don't wish to offend anyone, but that's just my opinion. Even light contact is stretching it...If you want the best results, it is my opinion that you should spar hard. Not dangerously, but hard, there's a difference, and it can be done. Like a midget at a urinal, I'm always on my toes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2_sub Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 And what about those untrained who whip the trained?? Maybee cause that trained person has never been in a full contact sparring ... it's essential for a martial artists to get some beetin' sometimes , better to get ur a** whipped in a dojo than to loose in a street fight ...( No offence to any one ) Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenttiensankari Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 no contact and light contact is good for rookies, full contact is good for those who have trained more. In renshinkan we use some gear to prefent injuries, and then fight with full contact. Of course there are rules where you can hit or kick. no contact in back and below belly. But you can hit or kick in head for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2_sub Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 In renshinkan we use some gear to prefent injuries, and then fight with full contact. Of course there are rules where you can hit or kick. no contact in back and below belly. But you can hit or kick in head for example.i can understand why you can't hit on the back , but below belly ?? do you mean that low kicks and leg sweaps are dinied ????? what about knees to the leg , denied as well ?? thats more like TKD , whering gear and no hits below belt .. i don't belive in protective gears also ( unless if they are gloves ) Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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