cymry Posted October 22, 2003 Author Posted October 22, 2003 It's not really a running attack, I said that because you get some forward momentum behind the strike. The "running attack" and the DLT are two differnet scenarios.
cymry Posted October 22, 2003 Author Posted October 22, 2003 Sometimes it is not always in your best interest to bust the guy's knee (excessive force anyone?). Treebranch, what other takedowns would be more practical against a big guy? The DLT would be good if you can do it because the guy would shaken up a bit as he hits the ground.
Treebranch Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 Cymry, if he sprawls on top of you before you can pull it off you're in big trouble. Usually you can take almost anyone down with a good armbar as long as you can get him off balance before hand. People usually will go down because they don't want you to break their elbow, but you need make sure you have control of him when he gets to the ground. There are other simple takedowns you can use by stepping behind and trapping his feet from moving and pushing his face back or something to get him to bend back slightly. I don't know if this is clear, it's hard for me to explain with words. The key is getting them off balance and knowing how to take advantage of that moment when he's trying to catch himself to take him down. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
cymry Posted October 25, 2003 Author Posted October 25, 2003 How do you take someone down with an armbar?
Treebranch Posted October 26, 2003 Posted October 26, 2003 It's not an BJJ armbar, it's just levering the arm to cause the person to bend over. When you have them bent over you put your weight on the arm forcing them to go down on their stomach or have their arm break at the elbow. I don't know if that is clear or not, but hopefully it is. Their many ways to get someone to go down. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
cymry Posted October 26, 2003 Author Posted October 26, 2003 So you're turning the arm so the palm and elbow are up, and pushing down on the elbow?
Treebranch Posted October 27, 2003 Posted October 27, 2003 Sure, but what makes it work is that you use the arm to control his spine or balance and take him to his balance point. The balance points are where people have no strength and will fall if you know what your doing. Usually if you take someone to their balance point they will try to catch themselves and that's when you change direction on them and they will go down, or drop your weight on it. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
cymry Posted October 28, 2003 Author Posted October 28, 2003 Can armlocking techniques work against a stronger opponent? I don't see what you could do if he resists.
JerryLove Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 If someone resists a grapple, then change the grapple. Once you lock in, simply resisting isn't effective because of a loss of leverage. https://www.clearsilat.com
Treebranch Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 Thank you JerryLove, very well put. If someone resists and they are pulling or pushing in a certain direction go with it and usually you will send them off balance again. You have to be sensitive to what your opponents weight is doing so that you can take advantage of it. Resisting can be exactly the response you want in order to take someone down. If the person is off balance and you have him on that edge where he cannot regain it and you have the arm levered, there's very little they can do. Also the flow of the movements are very important. If you pause this could be enough for a counter to happen. If you have good flow they won't even know what happened, because your not giving his brain and body time to realize what's happening to it. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
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