cymry Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 1. Do you guys think this would work? You are about kicking range. Your attacker's right foot is forward. You throw a short low kick at your opponent's ankle with your rear (right) leg. Now you would be in a position with the rear knee bent, the kicking leg straight, your torso leaning back slightly. Your bodyweight is on your supporting leg. Next you start to lean forward as you shift your bodyweight onto the lead leg, pinning your opponent's foot to the floor. Your lead leg should now be bent with your back leg straight. Your torso is over your hips, straight up.(Please note you are moving forward as this happens. It's an in-between move, if you know what I mean.) Finally you keep your torso moving forwards slightly, as you straighten up your front leg (all the weight should be on your opponent's foot, stopping his leg from moving) and slam your rear knee into his (outside?) thigh. Then start pounding with your close range weapons as you step down with the kneeing leg behind your opponent so you are positioned slightly behind him. This works best if you're side-on to the other guy. Slightly off-centre is enough though. It has to be done quickly so that you can kick and then pin your opponent's foot. I suppose the kick could just be a long step. Whew! Sorry that's a little long. If I could get some pics I would. 2. Any advice for body position etc for taking down a big guy with a double leg takedown?
cymry Posted October 20, 2003 Author Posted October 20, 2003 BTW, would it be better to grab your opponent as you knee him?
JerryLove Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 Let me make sure I'm envisioning this properly... Youve got someone coming in for the takedown, and you've just put one foot functionally on top of his while leaning back? I'd suspect he'd lift and do a single-leg takedown. If you are dealing with that in your scenerio, I don't see where https://www.clearsilat.com
cymry Posted October 20, 2003 Author Posted October 20, 2003 No they're totally separate things. Sorry I didnt make that clear. The first low kick would be a sort of savate kick come to think of it, except you're moving forward more. http://www.kolumbus.fi/savate.club.helsinki/img/historia2.gif There's a pic of the kick I mean. Hope you get the idea. (The guy on the left.)
SBN Doug Posted October 20, 2003 Posted October 20, 2003 You're probably going to confuse a lot of people. The movements you describe seem to neither be a running attack or a takedown, which is the title of your post. Kuk Sool Won - 4th danEvil triumphs when good men do nothing.
Treebranch Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Are you talking about sparring or fighting? In sparring why not give a little distraction kick. In a real situation move to the outside of your attackers leading leg and stomp the knee straight in hyperextending break. You have to stomp it and follow through so that the attacker is now on the ground. Don't just snap kick it, that will just give him time to recover for the next attack. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
JerryLove Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Against someone boxing with you, the kick shown is a reasonable one. Against someone charging and after a take-down, your weight-back position will make you easy to bowl over; particularly in light of the follow-up you describe (which leaves you extended for a moment, as opposed to snapping out and back) https://www.clearsilat.com
Tibby Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 Hey bro, instead of a kick, try a foot sweep or hook or block. That is what is sounds like you are talking about. When judoinfo.com gets up and running again, I'll get you a few pics of footsweeps and such, tell us which one it is more like. As for taking down big guys, there are a ton of stuff? What where you looking for? How big is he and how big are you?
Treebranch Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 If the guy is big and can handle himself good luck trying a double or single leg takedown. Your sacrificing alot when you do that type of takedown if the guy is big and powerful and knows what he's doing. Try it on a big guy who's your friend first to see if you can pull it off. "It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.""Lock em out or Knock em out"
mikS Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 1. Do you guys think this would work? You are about kicking range. Your attacker's right foot is forward. You throw a short low kick at your opponent's ankle with your rear (right) leg. Now you would be in a position with the rear knee bent, the kicking leg straight, your torso leaning back slightly. Your bodyweight is on your supporting leg. Next you start to lean forward as you shift your bodyweight onto the lead leg, pinning your opponent's foot to the floor. Your lead leg should now be bent with your back leg straight. Your torso is over your hips, straight up.(Please note you are moving forward as this happens. It's an in-between move, if you know what I mean.) Finally you keep your torso moving forwards slightly, as you straighten up your front leg (all the weight should be on your opponent's foot, stopping his leg from moving) and slam your rear knee into his (outside?) thigh. Then start pounding with your close range weapons as you step down with the kneeing leg behind your opponent so you are positioned slightly behind him. This works best if you're side-on to the other guy. Slightly off-centre is enough though. It has to be done quickly so that you can kick and then pin your opponent's foot. I suppose the kick could just be a long step. Whew! Sorry that's a little long. If I could get some pics I would. 2. Any advice for body position etc for taking down a big guy with a double leg takedown? No, this woudln't work.
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