yeah, but one problem, if we dont do the form the way they make us, we dont pass our testing, im testing for my black belt in about 2 weeks, but thx for the advice, my bujinkan is my only real self defense, all my other styles ive taken are useless: judo:who is walking around wearing a Gi?,Taekwondo: dont ever try a high kick on a bujinkan instructor, yeesh!, shaolin:acrobatics are too flashy and not effective, hung gar: a watered down version of bujinkan in my opinion, i know they come from 2 dif places, but bujinkan is like hung gar with more weapons and more fine points.(advice: If your fighting a boxer, dont try to knock him out with a punch or kick above the belt, their used to getting hit, either a kick to the knees or groin, or throw and lock him, boxers aren't used to being locked )