Thanks for the website ps1. That had alot of good info. Montana, thanks for your input as well. I just havn't heard or read much about Seidokan while I've been looking into Okinawan Karate, and I just wanted to get some info from others, before I commit myself. But since this is the only traditional karate school around, I'm sure thats where I'll go. There are several Korean martial arts around but I'd like to get into as traditional an art as I can find. Thanks again dino73