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Original Hapkido Kicks
taichi4eva replied to taichi4eva's topic in TKD, TSD, Hapkido, and Korean Martial Arts
What is a twisted side kick? I know about stepping, spinning, flying, but twisted? Also, I know two types of crescent kicks- one going out to in and the other from in to out. Which one specifically is the case? Thank you -
I have not been here for a long time. I switched to CMA a couple of months ago. So my question concerns about the original Hapkido kicks. After leaving KMA, I began to evaluate the techniques I had learned from TKD, especially the kicks. When sparring in my new class, I learned that a lot of the Olympic style sparring I was taught was not efficient. I have begun to research more and more on the original TKD and HKD techniques in an effort to enrich my fighting style. I learned that originally TKD had only three techniques- front, roundhouse, and side- and practicioners were taught where to aim these kicks as well as counters. Currently, I try to hone myself to these three kicks also. I also learned that in HKD, Master Choi also taught these three kicks and created ten kicking techniques. I have pulled this from a website that I do not remember right now, but here goes. 1. Kick with arch of the foot to lower ankle or inside of ankle. 2. Front kick with toes to testicle. 3. Reverse/inverted roundhouse kick to groin/testicle. 4. Side outside knife edge of foot to the knee joint, 5. Front inside knife edge of foot to the knee joint. 6. Front kick to jaw/chin. 7. Fanning kick to the thigh/femoral artery area. 8. Kick with heel of foot into spine while spinning/pushing. 9. Low side kick into back/side knee area. 10. Back kick with rear foot to chest. Can anyone describe the fanning kick? I was in TKD for a long time, and I have never heard of it. I also noticed taht all the kicks were low and the target areas were low also- ankle, groin, knee joint, thigh, with the exception of #6. Actually can anyone describe all these techniques in more detail? I have personally never seen HKD before. My master told me that many of the techniques that I was taught was pulled from HKD, like Hoshinsul, but I was never sure. What techniques did Master Choi originally teach? And not Master Ji, who I know added a lot to the curriculum... Thank you for your time.
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Who influenced who, for whoever cares
taichi4eva replied to Akima's topic in TKD, TSD, Hapkido, and Korean Martial Arts
So, I'm understanding that by saying the old TKD masters were practicioners of the Pyong Ahn forms, this means that they practiced just Japanese forms in general like No Hai (rohai), Ship Soo (jitte), etc. I read on the hanmudo.com website that Hee Sun Kim learned Kong Soo Do, more specifically the Pyong Ahn forms, basic forms (i think like Kicho), and three step sparring. Any thoughts? -
When Korea was still under Japanese occupation, a lot of people practiced kong soo do. I asked someone a long time ago what hyung they practiced and they said just the pyong ahn (like the ones in tang soo do). Does this mean that pyong ahn were considered for a long time to be representative of kong soo do? that it was a separate style altogether, even without other hyung like palseck, etc? I know that pyong ahn is the korean pronunciation of pinan, a group of forms created by the Okinawan master Anko Itosu. I know that Itosu had created the pinan kata for high school students, but was it supposed to be a style altogether? Thank you
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On a lot of webpages, many Tang Soo Do practicioners are pictured practicing with many types of weapons. I was just wondering if these are practiced: - Chinese broadsword - Japanese bokken - Staff - Short Staff And if so, do you practice forms with each weapon? Thanks.
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Does anyone have this video? If so, what does it feature? One person forms? I am very interested in purchasing this video and was hoping someone out there had bought this already. It goes for about $50 at gungfu.com.
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Sun Hang Do-The New Martial Art
taichi4eva replied to koreantiger81's topic in TKD, TSD, Hapkido, and Korean Martial Arts
michigantkd... A lot of korean styles are of a hybrid nature. Modern TKD is a culmination of five different schools. Tang Soo Do is a combination of Karate, Tan Tui, and Tai Chi. Kumdo is a combination of Japanese Kendo and "native sword techniques" (bon guk gum bup). Personally, I think these combo styles are a great idea. True, the saying "jack of all trades, master of none" applies here, but I think it's unrealistic to think that one martial art encompasses all the necessary skills that one needs in order to defend oneself. I've done kung fu before and if I was making a style, then I'd combine my kung fu with my TKD (for anyone's who's interested, it would include palgwe 1-8, chulki, bassai, twelve tan tuis, 24 step tai chi, shaolin saber, and kumdo) Learning different arts helps broaden our scope of things. People could point out a bunch of things that TKD fails to address- grappling, pressure points, etc. and as practicioners, I think it would be best if we could remedy this by assimilating techniques from other places. -
First of all, I'm not a Tang Soo Do practioner, so I hope I'm not offending anyone with this post. Hwang Kee supposedly studied Yang Taijiquan, Tantui, and Changquan with a Mr. Yang Kuk Jin (probably the Korean version of his name in Mandarin). He combined this with his knowledge of Soo Bahk and coined his martial art "Hwa Soo Do." The school closed down quickly because no one knew what it was, but everyone had some idea of what Japanese Karate was. In response to popular demand I guess, Hwang Kee started reading books about Japanese Karate and learned 12-14 forms of Okinawan Karate (this goes against what most Tang Soo Do people say in which Hwang Kee brought these forms back from China...I just think the former seems more realistic since Hwang Kee admitted to have done so in his previous writings). So what's my question? My question is before the 1950's, what hyung did Hwang Kee teach? I've been doing a lot of asking around, and I think everyone admits that Hwang Kee's style has definitely gone through an evolution of sorts- the modification of the hyung, the creation of new ones into the curriculum (chil sung, hwa sun, etc.), the incorporation of forms (from 10-12 hyung from Okinawan Karate to 24-25) and the dissappearance of others (rarely does anyone practice the tantui, yang taijiquan, and changquan anymore) Here's what I think. Feel free to correct me. - 3 Kicho - 5 Pyong Ahn - Bassai - Shaolin Tantui (12 Road style, not 10) - Yangjia Taijiquan (the form that Hwang Kee practiced had the repetitions cut out of it. I heard it looks like the 88 form) - Shaolin Changquan (in a series of responses to Dan Nolan's article on the origin of the Pyong Ahn series, Dan Nolan writes that Hwang Kee had actually forgotten the form and had sent his son to go study changquan with a Chinese master in Seoul. There is a hypothesis that says that Hwang Kee in fact never learned changquan, but a composite form of Tantui, which he called changquan.) The forms listed above are what I think Hwang Kee must have originally taught when he opened his Moo Duk Kwan. Can anyone confirm this?
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Mishima Style Karate
taichi4eva posted a topic in Martial Arts Gaming, Movies, TV, and Entertainment
In Tekken, a lot of the characters practice this. Does it resemble a real style of Karate? I thought it looked like Goju Ryu but I'm not so sure. Also, for Lee Chaolan, does it resemble anything in real life? -
Shaolin schools in and around Zhengzhou and Taguo teach students Taekwondo for two years. I was just wondering, what kind of poomse would these people be taught in two years? I was under the impression that the Taekwondo that they practice is probably WTF and the students probably learn the basics along with the Taeguek series. Does anyone know for sure what the monks practice? Thanks
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I was going through the library the other day, and found a book by Keith Yates entitled "The Complete Book of Taekwondo Forms." In it, he performs hyung that he said he learned from Jhoon Rhee- Chon Ji, Tan Gun, To San, Won Hyo, Hwa Rang, Chung Mu, Kwang Gae, Kae Kaek, Po Eun, Chulgi, and Bassai. The hyung are virtually the same as the ones practiced in the ITF, only not as many. Can anybody exlain this? Did Jhoon Rhee ever study under Choi Hong Hi, and if so, how come he didn't learn all the hyung? And what's with Chulgi and Bassai anyway?
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korean kumdo forms
taichi4eva replied to taichi4eva's topic in TKD, TSD, Hapkido, and Korean Martial Arts
I know a little about Haidong Kumdo, and I was always under the impression that Haidong Kumdo had many forms. This has just two and some basic movements. The curriculum is pretty short. I think that maybe it is part of Daehan Kumdo since the techniques resemble many of the basic strikes and target in the same areas. I want to learn more about Korean sword forms. Are there any videos or books on the subject? I was looking at gungfu.com and they have this video called "Do Sa- the Art of Korean Swordsmanship." Does anybody have this video and if so, do they recommend it? Maybe my master made up all the forms...I have no idea. -
The sine wave was introduced into TKD by Choi Hong Hi. I think the movement was present in karate before, but I'm not sure of this. The sine wave movement is the only thing that separates WTF and ITF if forms are concerned. Hope this helps...
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Just wondering what kind of kata are taught in this system of Kenpo? Also, how did Mitose come to know the Naihanchi form?
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At the taekwondo dojang I go to, the master teaches basic kumdo in addition with the traditional poomse. Our kumdo is not like that of other schools; ours focuses mainly on single person hyungs rather than sparring. The master teaches us first the ten basic movements with the sword and two short forms. Does anyone teach a similar system? I described to my friend how the sword forms looked like, and he said that they are practiced almost universally by Korean kumdo students and that there are more than two. Thanks