This is the kind of thread that I joined this forum for. I'm Ian, I'm also 15, and I just went back a few months ago, after 3 years or so. I got to shodan, and then I quit. When I went back, I found the classes to be excruciating, physically. The katas that I knew to get to shodan were replaced by other ones, that I now have to learn. So I can't really help there. Anyway, It's been about half a year, and I now find that classes don't bother me physically anymore, just because the repetition of the exercise really does wonders for endurance. We're not really a tournament dojo, so I'm afraid I can't help with anything like that. Hope that helps! yes thats interesting, im interested in the katas in your style of karate.i do wadu ryu and we do a kata called 'pinan shodan' is that the same as what you called 'shodan'? and what other katas do you do? cheers, heva