bushido_man96, I found the Kempo website for the actual schools. When I get an opportunity to visit one of the schools I will but currently I do not have a car. The most I have seen is that they offer one free class, which I do not think, is enough for me to really decide. Cathal, How much kicking is involved in Shotokan? Is it fluid or not and does it have allot of high kicking? I really do not like allot of high kicks. I thank you guys about answering my questions. http://www.tracyskarate.org/index.htm