One more thing When I was doing my grading for shodan, I had a surprise request for 3 big guys to grab onto me. It was hell to have 3 big guys grabing on; one on the waist; and another 2 grabing each hand. I couldn't even move!!! I guess if they wished to pin me down, they would have no problem doing so. So I did appreciate that they "let loose" a little. Otherwise, I would be immobilised by those three big guys. I guess the point is that we all react to the situation and circumstances right?? I've once been grabbed by two guys who put their weight down onto my hand, my hand was kindda bruised, I guess theres a big strength difference between guys and girls huh... One thing good about guys is that they have all the energy they need, whereas girls only have limited strength. But guys tend to get a little more hasty and wanna end things quickly (I guess they're impatient), whereas the ladies take their time to execute the technique. I'm also conscious that guys have this "cannot lose face" theory, or what you all call pride or honour. But isn't this a hinderance to training if you're a "cannot lose" kinda guy?? I thought guys were not supposed to be so petty over such trivial stuff. Guys out there pls comment.