I 100% agree with Mr. Green. hope this doesn't change the focus of the intended topic... I've actually known of a true instance where the hanshi of a homebrewed-ryu (you know, one of those certificate-sokes) threatened a senior student (san-dan) of banning them from the org if they didn't stop posting to a particular forum. and no, I wasn't the student or the hanshi. That was the most radical instance I've ever heard in reguards to the gist of the topic. -(btw, nice to meet everyone. my name is Ed. )