Karate 25, I trained with all three, BOB, DAN, and AL.  DAN started bringing more of a stand up game to the club (judo) and he has also started getting seminars and stuff together.  It was really starting to get good.  There were about 7 regulars and I went when possible.  Having numerous purple belts and a blue belt around really helped everyone. I'll try to see about the UMR but as you can imagine, 30 minutes away is hard to work with my job.  Like I said before, if there are enough people around here, I'm sure we all could get together and roll.  If I get a number of people saying yes, I'll talk to some gyms and see if they'll let us roll a couple of nights a week.