MMASanDiego

I always get the feeling people think that a BJJ guy isnt going to strike during a fight. I think we need to clarify here. He probably wont strike much standing up, but he will strike like hell on the ground. In BJJ, they tell you to get position first, then attack. If I have side control or full mount on you, I wont strike in class where it is illegal, but you better believe I will be dropping elbows and fists in a real fight. Being a BJJ practitioner you will have a very hard time escaping this position while I pummel you to death Ever see Royce smash someones face in when he has a tirangle choke on them. In a triangle choke, you can barely move and cant move your head. You better believe a BJJ guy is gonna turn your face into mush in this position, and he will choke you out only if he is feeling nice BJJ-ers definitely strike. They just prefer to strike after they have you pinned down so you cant defend, a very scary position to be in.

My original statement: "For example, a BJJ white belt with 1 year of training cannot prevent submissions from a BJJ blue belt. " So how am I wrong when you admit it he will still get the sub, but will just have to work a little harder for it? Thats my point. These guys who practice some takedown/sub defense still have no chance against a BJJ player, especially a higher ranked one. The gapper is bigger than it seems.

Chuck is a division 1 wrestler. In other words, a grappling god. Without his grappling base, Chuck would not have the best take down defense in the UFC and when he is taken down (yes it still occurs), he would not have the skills to stand back up to reclaim his striking skills.

Thats fine and your perogative, but I hope at the same time you realize you are practicing something less effective.

Oh, and I also agree you do not need to be a master of submission wrestling to be able to defend against submissions. I just think there is a large gap between what some people here think is the minimum required to prevent subs (or takedowns) and what they really need. For example, a BJJ white belt with 1 year of training cannot prevent submissions from a BJJ blue belt. So the question I would pose to you is, do you or dont you have over 1 year of day to day submission grappling experience which may be enough to prevent subs from a first year BJJ student? When you are ready to talk about BJJ purple belts (5-7 years experience) let me know You are going to need a ton of experience to avoid a sub from purple and higher.

I respectfully disagree. Deadalus is posting what I consider to be the obvious truth after taking years of various martial arts my entire life. I think its unfair to label him as some kind of BJJ cult member for basically stating the truth. Ive taken TKD, karate, Kung-fu, judo, some aikido and BJJ. Im taking BJJ now. I guess its just kind of hard to explain in words. You really need to experience it. You could practive takedown defense all day long and think you have it mastered in kata form, but when put up against a real opponent your whole game falls apart. These grapplers go for takedowns and defend takedowns in 100% effort sparring in every class. Yet they lose the takedown defense about 50% of the time. To think you will be able to defend a takedown against one of these guys who have thousands of hours of experience more than you in takedowns is simply ignorant bliss. In a sense you are a takedown defense white belt and they are takedown black belts. You chances are slim at best. All I can say is, visit your local BJJ studio. Talk to the instructor, and ask if you can test your takedown ability against, say a blue belt ( a guy with 1-2 years experience). I guarantee you will be in for a rude awakening. Being close minded in the MA world is really a bad idea. You dont want to carry around any delusions like this.