I doubt offense was taken. However, i would say you're missing out on one of the most important phases of a confrontation. And, as EaK mentioned, judo is primarily stand-up grappling and takedown. Wrestling and groundwork grappling systems, by default, are great for conditioning. The techniques in judo, bjj, and classical wrestling, if studied, will 'wake you up' as to what 'can' be done. But, choice is choice. Might want to ask if Kang Rhee is his 'birth' name. Kinda sounds like a run of Jhoon Rhee and "Kang" from Flash Gordon. As to Jung Ho Ko, couldn't find anything. I know you likely don't want to bother, especially since it seems you've moved on about him, but if you start thinking about it again, might be prudent to ask 'when' he won and with specifically 'what' competitions... seeing as i checked out 8 different TKD USTU-related competitions, running since 1986, and didn't find his name. I'll investigate the judos a little more then, thanks for the information. Thats very interesting about the Jung Ho Ko thing, he also had a Medal of Honor on his wall that the manager said was given to him by the President of Korea. Kang Rhee has been in Memphis for years, he claims responsibility for training Elvis and Bill "SuperFoot" Wallace. http://www.kangrhee.com/ http://www.elviskarate.com/