Kajukenbopr

ok, that was truly bland of me I will explain my comment. I think u should go with Japanese jujitsu because its the closest japanese grappling art to karate. Jujitsu teaches the core techniques that make up the arts of Aikido, and Judo - aikido emphasizes on the small joint manipulations of jujitsu, and momentum to help these along. Judo is the perfected art of throwing techniques from jujitsu. Jujitsu contains material covered in both arts plus striking very similar to Karate, including the footwork used. It should be an easy transition from Karate into Japanese Jujitsu, and a very hard transition into Brazilian Jujitsu or aikido.

one word: jujitsu

Judo was born from jujitsu. In the competitive arena, judokas usually have the upper advantage in throws and agressive moves. Jujitsu is usually better at joint manipulation. Both are around the same in groundfighting game. Both are amazing arts, and one is not better than the other. If you are looking for competition and lots of exercise and agressive moves - judo. If you want joint manipulation, dangerous moves and some karate-like movements - jujitsu is for you.

I still think we're deviating from the topic at hand though. Can aikido be employed against people that are willing to fight back? What would be the most effective techniques to use? and finally, how would u train ur student so he doesnt forget his training in the heat of a real fight? I'm all for randori teaching students to react instead of following a list of techniques however, what do you do when you face an agressive grappler willing to fight back?

So much for trying to mold your students the way you want to... You wont understand Budo by yourself out of nothing; not even with a teacher telling you the spirit of budo is this or that, to really grasp what a confrontation, a duel, a fight is, it develops through personal experience. aikido has the spirit of Budo in it, but it is almost impossible to tell your student that you understand what a real fight is because you have FOUGHT before and thus you understand how rough it can all be, then propose to teach how to become as adept in the martial art but that if he wants to be truly good, he must seek to not fight or hurt his opponent. he wont get it, because that person has 2 different insights: 1. fighting made me understand and develop to where i am in this martial art. 2. peace and not hurting ur opponent makes u a better martial artist.

There is. All martial arts were originally combative. However that doesn't mean that all martial arts schools practice to prepare for self defense or combat anymore. I have a problem with the original comment, because judo was designed to be able to use in competition, but the aim was to make it effective in any situation (even in fights). you dont have to add much strikes to judo to make judo effective in a fight - hitting the ground after a throw puts much more pressure on ur body than a kick or a punch. combat aikido, well, u can refer to aikijujitsu, which has the same techniques, but in a more agressive apporach, or "REAL AIKIDO", which is a russian interpretation of how the style should be used in actual fights. As to Taichi, it is one of the styles from China that has been "watered down" over time, since people dont train for the fighting applications; people dont want to train their body parts for impact, they wont train to withstand hits, they wont train to perfect their energy emanations or as I'd like to put it, correct biomechanic movements while in fighting. and also, Taichi has grappling in it, and most people dont know how to apply the moves.... the only mainstream videos ive seen regarding this is Master Wong up in England, look him up.

ninjitsu uses aiki-jujitsu as the base for its martial arts -aikijujitsu is a secret martial art that was passed down in secret UNTIL the Takeda family disseminated the Takeda Ryu(aikijujitsu) to outsiders. While ninjitsu developed on its own, from aikijujitsu, Aikido was developed by a man that felt that some spiritual aspects should replace the harsh teachings(in part ) of budo. So, while maintaining the harsh training of budo, but with the intention of being in harmony and not harming the opponent, aikido was born. Judo was born from jujitsu schools, and the development by jigoro kano. His studies made him conclude that without making the opponent to be off balance, one would not be able to effectively perform a throw.

Despite what people might say, aikido and aikijujitsu can be quite effective in and out of the dojo, however, all i find for aikido competition is that when paired with a non-compliant opponent, aikido turns into judo-like wrestling. How does one apply aikido or aikijujitsu against a non-compliant opponent? Anyone can clear this up for me?

I've always been one to say that one should take the time to actually learn a style, and become good at it, before actually trying to say u KNOW about a style. Learn the correct dynamics, then put them to the test. Very few mixed martial art instructors can actually pass their knowledge to create new mixed martial artists that actually dominate the material they need in different areas. The ones that CAN pass their knowledge on actually have a curriculum they pass on to their students, much like traditional martial arts, so important material doesnt get lost and forgotten in class. Also, there are fighters, and then there are fighters. MMAs can actually be quite similar to Traditional Martial Arts in the sense that if you dont train as you should, with the best of teachers, u will get beaten and you will lose. Thats why we see some fighting gems and a lot of burning coal(they push on, but have no actual skill) Thats just my opinion though.

my teacher doesnt believe in set forms. we have to make them up from the basic postures and movements he teaches... its harder to perform, but it comes more natural, or so he says... i personally like set forms and then performing on my own.

ive barely started training formally in Wing Chun Kali. I'm with one of the students of Sifu Ramon Diaz in Puerto Rico. Sorry, dont really know his lineage.

not bad...

Sorry for them, but Aikido can be taught as self defense IF you practice practical applications. In my school, I've taken Aikido concepts and applied them to the techniques we have. If you keep training to fight a swordsman, you might do well if u ever find him, however, it wont help much against punches and kicks.... But isnt this going way off topic??

i think the founder of Kyokushin made it become literal. He became a fighting machine that could not be blocked and would render anyone impotent against such force. But, we also have to remember the harsh training a karate-ha had to overcome so that when he found someone without martial arts skill, one blow could kill them. you train to become hard and hit even harder. you become sword-like, a breathing weapon that has the potential to kill with a single strike.

Come on, somebody must know a way to train for "feeling out" an opponent, even when u cant see them. Anyone up for sharing?