hi everyone, I never expected to get this much information, thanks for all of the replies. I suppose I'll just have to go to check out the class. If they had a TKD course, it'd be much easier for me to judge, but my studio's course was very rigorous and demanding, and wholly satisfying, I only hope that this studio is just as disciplined. Also, for Bart, how long does it take a student to advance to black belt in Jiu-jitsu in your studio? Thanks.