ninjamac

Hey Ninjamac,

I really do not know the answer to that one.

That would be a good move on fred villaris part.

How many even make it to black more or less 9th degree?

Hey red j,

Is villari and the 7 dragons going to be in black belt next month?

Wow, you guys sure do know a lot about about the Villari system!

I studied with Armen Heroian for almost two years, during my mid teen years. I think I started in 2000. He IS pretty dedicated, and it made me idolize him, I tried so hard to be like him. I made it to green/brown stripe, but unfortunately I had to drop out of the class because I had gotten pregnant with my first born. I had planned to return after recovering, but I ended up moving to Sacramento.

Do you guys know if they'll spread up to Northern California? I tried looking for something similar up here and couldn't find anything. I tried taking Taekwondo, but after studying with Master Heroian, Taekwondo seemed very much like nothing. I was forced to drop martial arts entirely and pick up bellydance.

Wellcome to the forum nasraani,

One of my friends studys with grand master heroian. He was just promoted to 9th degree by grand master friend villari.

I hear they are planing a big expansion in california so I give grand master armen a call.

Best of luck to you.

Does anybody know where mattera got his 9th dan?

No I dont, but I beleave he self promoted himself in my opinion.

I cant find anything on the web where he got it.

Master Prosch is a legit master. I train with him on a weekly basis. And let me tell you he is well deserving of his rank. As far as USSD goes, I love it here. it is them most complete system I have come across and it has yet to fail me or my students. Yes its true that some of the studios fall short of that expectation, and that makes us all look bad, but those who strive to live up to what United Studios truly represents doesnt disapoint. I have joined the Insttructors College and it is totally worth the money. It is business school and teacher instruction all in one. So if all you can do is 'say' how bad it is, then I encourage you to step up and 'show' how much better you are.

Welcome to the forum offduty ninja,

Ask master prosch why grandmaster fred villari is not in the black belt manual?

He promoted mattera from yellow to 7th black.

Why dont they teach the real history?

Is it beacause you can own a fred villari dojo 100% for $40,000?

https://www.villarisonline.com

https://www.shaolinkempo.com

And they dont want you to know about it?

Also ask him why you cant own a ussd school 100% anymore? Are they greedy?

I dont know why these people open schools with mc dojos? You would make more money on your own then with a mc dojo.

$100 a month for classes for 100 students= $10,000 a month.

Thats 120,000 a year

That makes alot more sense then paying some outrageous franchise fee.

Yes I think it's $125,000 for a USSD dojo? It will probabley be only $10,000 to get my dojo started.

$1,500 first months rent.

$1,500 last months rent.

$1,500 deposit.

$1,000- $500 for mats.

$500 for gi's and patchs.

$100 for phone.

I agree. Mixed martial arts is the best. Studing one style is to limited. A mix of jeet kune do I think is one of the best mixed martial arts out there.

If you teach a mix style you will have more people train with you and you will be a better fighter.

A little off topic does anyone know where master dave leynton went?

Who is master dave leynton? What school did he run?

He was the head master of the utah area a few years back.

He was a 7th dan.

At USSD, I beleave you have to give 33% of the profit to them.

Don't forget overhead: Rent, Insurance, Advertising, Maintanance

Iam going to start off small and build my school up before I get a a large space.

As for advertising I know how ussd did it. So I'll make alot more money because the money will go in my pocket(not theirs).

When I open my school I am going to invite different masters to the dojo and teach a mixed martial art, not just shaolin kempo.

I dont know why these people open schools with mc dojos? You would make more money on your own then with a mc dojo.

$100 a month for classes for 100 students= $10,000 a month.

Thats 120,000 a year

What do you meen you didn't get a good feel for the school culture?

jwluiza, Was the instructor on the east coast or west? If the east then he should know the whole story.

Hey jwluiza,

How much are the classes? What did you like about? What did you not like about it? What degree of black belt was the instructor and how long has he been training? I notice alot of instructors are pushed threw the ranks to run schools. Did the instructor know charles mattera was with grand master fred villari before he went on his own.

I hate how alot of these mcdojos charge so much.

If I open a school I would charge only 75 to 100 a month so everyone can train.

If you bought a car wouldn't you do some research on it first before you buy it? https://www.bbb.org So why not the same with martial arts?

You are so right on that one KFF3. we should check out a school's history before we enroll or enroll one of are kids. Man they have alot of violation's.

Hi all,

I wish mattera and company would just say that they teach kempo with kungfu later.

The forms to black belt are not shaolin, they are kajukenbo kempo forms. Your shaolin defense maneuvers(DM's)are kajukenbo kempo combos..

That's another mis-statement. The forms and combo's of Shaolin Kempo are not Kajukenbo. I've seen all the SKK forms and combo's required for 1st degree, and only recognized one technique that resembled a Kajukenbo "Punch Counter". Each generation from Sonny Gascon to George Pesare, to Nick Cerio, to Fred Villari changed, removed, and added material.

Sorry about that mister bishop. I was going off mr cpw link.

https://www.urbin.net/EWW/MA/KF/3D.html#Styles

IT's actually karaenpo Go Shinjutsu. https://www.karazenpogoshinjutsu.com

I dont like how you dont get any of the green, brown and black testing fees.Also if you are good enough to train someone to black and beyond, can't you test them also?

Hi all,

I wish mattera and company would just say that they teach kempo with kungfu later.

The forms to black belt are not shaolin, they are kajukenbo kempo forms. Your shaolin defense maneuvers(DM's)are kajukenbo kempo combos. In my opinion they probabley thought shaolin sounded more marketable.

They also dont put fred villari in their black belt manual.That's where mattera got 1st -7th black.

Sunny victor gascon made up most of the system up to black and combos 1- 26 but their is no mention of him in their b.b manual.

In my opinion if you lie about what you teach than what else are you lying about?

Please dont take this the wrong way cpw there is alot of good instructors in ussd and it sounds like you have a good one so keep training their if you like. I would not sign up for instructors college.

I hate contracts

VILLARIS should open it self to all the offshots. He would make alot more money from tournaments and test and seminars.

A little off topic does anyone know where master dave leynton went?

CPW do you train with ussd?

Look at https://www.theshaolinway.com grand master damasco is not wearing any ussd apparel.

He is promoting how to run your own school and training tips and is offering certification for instructors. I dont think mattera would approve of helping the competition.From what I've seen thats not the ussd way, just my opinion.

doubt it. he's supposed to be writing in a new columm for black belt mag along with charles mattera

I am not so sure?

Look at https://www.theshaolinway.com