SenseiMike I am trying to get your point, your styles list like mine say shotokan, I do shotokan, so in some shotokan clubs you can attack the lower limbs and groin, also we can sweep grab throw lock. as for it being linear my sensei is always saying get off the rails when we kumite, So my point is that not all shotokan clubs should be tared with the same brush,We also don full protective gear and go at full speed and power on occasion as I said before there is good shotokan and bad shotokan. regards maki