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jhirsh

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  1. The punches would be more effective without gloves if the boxer knows how to hit without breaking a pinky. You do know most boxing schools teach to hit with that part of the hand so they make sure the glove makes full contact. I can guarantee you that getting hit hard with the pinky end of a hand would do allot less damage than getting hit hard with the first two knuckles of a hand. As you know many karate schools now days are hybrids where an instructor is versed in the sport of boxing and hence can teach technique to fight a boxer. I know the first school I went to did. Adrenaline dump can get anyone equally... True but it doesn’t have to. Often if you remove emotion from the equation it’s not an issue. Personally I don't think id be in a fight if emotion were playing a part and I hope most karate schools teach people why. I have fought larger people than me (im small 5-10 165lbs), I dont think any of them were boxers. Im not saying that size doesn’t matter in fact im saying the opposite. However in a school where people train to fight larger and smaller people that will help in a street fight a boxer doesn’t have that advantage.
  2. umm, as with any fight anything is possible. Although in a street fight karate strikes are much more effective. Boxers train to throw heavy punches to inflict damage with a glove on. Karate students are supposed to train to throw accurate breaking punches, elbows, knees, kicks etc. The karate student would also have an advantage because it is possible that he is trained to fight a boxer. While the boxer probably has no training to fight a karate student. The boxer should have the edge on conditioning however if properly trained the karate student should understand economy of motion and not tire as quickly. Any proper street fight shouldnt last more than a minute or so. Rarely will a street fight last as long as a boxing match or probably even a boxing round unless there are multiple participants. There are always passers by, police, bouncers etc... so conditioning in my opinon will be a mute point. Strength is probably going to go to the boxer as they in thier sport have to fight for a very very long time. Boxers are also used to fighting in their weight division so fighting outside of it may throw them off, while a karate student doesnt share the same problem. So a good karate fighter vs a good boxer in a street fight with luck and chaos being out of the equation. The fighter will win as he is trained to fight. A good boxer vs a karate fighter in a boxing ring. The boxer will win as he is trained to box. karate practioner from mcDojo's R us vs boxer in boxing ring or street fight. The boxer will win as he is trained to box and karate practioner is trained in technique but not the use of.
  3. I’m with you MASI. As to the video of the gracy, there is no way he is fighting a "master". If you watch his technique it looks like he either has no formal training or decided to forget it all when he threw his stepping telegraphed forward hand right haymaker with unclosed fist. It’s sort of like the stereotypical punch that we all trained not to throw. If anyone believes that this is a video of a karate master they are mistaken. By the way in order to be a master it would imply that they had nothing else to learn about their art. As you can see from this video this man had allot more to learn. No disrespect intended to anyone Some styles have more emphasis on ground fighting some more emphasis on stand up fighting. Comparing styles is all fine and dandy but in reality if you have any competent level of striker against any competent level of grappler if the strikers timing and luck is better the striker will win and vice versa. If we are basing best style on who wins in "mixed martial arts" competitions, then being a big tough brawler is by far the best style. Why even train when you could just take steroids and hit the weights allot. Sure you might lose a couple of fights to a grappler but in the process you will hurt him so badly that he wont want to compete any more. Soon the entire competition will be a contest of who is the biggest and best trained in an arena of poorly trained fighters! If you are looking for a style that has proven its weight in battle than a good choice would be Krav Maga. It is not made for competition, sport or restraint. Thats my .02c and my first post.
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